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In article <TED.89Oct12104143@kythera.nmsu.edu> ted@nmsu.edu (Ted Dunning) writes:
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>In article <3807@rtech.rtech.com> linda@rtech.rtech.com (Linda Mundy) writes:
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>   In article <16187@vail.ICO.ISC.COM> rcd@ico.ISC.COM (Dick Dunn) writes:
>	...
>   I personally think that any new, just-out-of-school programmer
>   should do maintenance work for awhile (assuming, of course,
>   that the company already has a product!)
>	...
>why wait until then?  one of the most important things that any
>course in software engineering should have students do is work on
>a large system.  for that matter, so should _all_ but the most
>basic courses.  if you have compiler class, make them work on a
>real compiler, in a course on semantics, make them work with the
>semantics of a real language.
>
I certainly agree that could be a very useful approach; however, few if any
university CS programs operate that way.
>	...
>   But the most important point: don't diminish people because of
>   their relative positions.  It can't do any good -- in fact, it
>   is exactly such attitudes that lead to "bored, second-string"
>   employees -- wherever they happen to be in the organizational
>   structure.
>	...
>i am not sure that dick was trying to diminish people asmuch as
>he was just observing that the programmers who do maintenance
>and typically _are_ bored, typically _are_ second-string.
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I don't think he was *trying* to diminish people, yet that phrase
"second-string maintenance programmers" sure sounds like a stereotype
to me.  And your comments above perpetuate that stereotype.

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Linda Mundy	{ucbvax,decvax}!mtxinu!rtech!linda