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Article #210Re: Spam site -was: Hotmail
From: Mike Williams
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 00:00
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 00:00
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I demand that Stuart Painting may, or may not, have written: > In article <485B54630E%polaris@ursaminr.demon.com.uk>, Peter Smith > <URL:mailto:polaris@ursaminr.demon.com.uk> wrote: > > > > I've done that, but it's been done so it _appears_ to come from me, at least > > as far as Junkmail is concerned, it _is_ from me. It's got me in the Return > > Path, From and message IDs. > > > > Here is the header..... > > > > > Return-Path: <Giffy@ursaminr.demon.co.uk> > > > Received: from saven.se (hal.saven.se [192.165.84.254]) > > > by rly-zc04.mx.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) > > > with ESMTP id MAA16649; > > > Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:02:09 -0400 (EDT) > > > From: Giffy@ursaminr.demon.co.uk > > > Received: from Mailhub by saven.se id SAA15610; Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:06:46 > > > +0200 (DFT) > > Hold on... are you saying that !JunkMail identified *you* as the > real sending site? Are you sure it didn't mention "saven.se" > (which from those headers looks mighty suspicious...) > > I am assuming that the *recipient* was an AOL customer. > > stuart > Because "saven.se" isn't in the database of !Junkmail v1 (I've never heard of them) it would only complain to "postmaster@saven.se" if it can't find any complaint addresses that *are* in its database. Abuse@demon.net is in the database, so it only complains there. As it happens, !Junkmail2 (which is almost ready to start beta testing), handles this a lot better, choosing to complain to "postmaster@saven.se" with confidence score 200, and offering "abuse@demon.net" as an alternative with confidence score 25, which is below the default confidence threshold of 60. -- Mike Williams
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 114044,54d3695880ab62a9 X-Google-Attributes: gid114044,public X-Google-Thread: 113320,3ff2a9fd2af5fc7b X-Google-Attributes: gid113320,public From: Mike Williams Subject: Re: Spam site -was: Hotmail Date: 1998/06/25 Message-ID: <19980625.035128.53@econym.demon.co.uk> X-Deja-AN: 366134063 References: <3ae7bd5a48%tim@worthy.demon.co.uk> <ant2414297a1t$G3@jim.ukonline.co.uk> <485B54630E%polaris@ursaminr.demon.com.uk> <ant242152b49MRUA@zedtoo.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: mike@econym.demon.co.uk Distribution: world X-NNTP-Posting-Host: econym.demon.co.uk:158.152.151.180 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 898817504 nnrp-04:12653 NO-IDENT econym.demon.co.uk:158.152.151.180 Organization: Beard Technology Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.apps,demon.ip.support.archimedes