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In article <ant212116568P$An@arg.argonet.co.uk>, Stuart Marshall
<d.s.mars@argonet.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <na.53c93247ac.a701a0fruit@argonet.co.uk> Andy Carter wrote:

>> I did have problems with several missing or delayed postings and very
>> slow downloads over last weekend. Some of my posts haven't got back
>> to me yet, although there have been some replies, so someone must
>> have received them. 

> I did mention problems a couple of times in the argonet ngs as I 
> thought the problem was with them ...... 

> The PIPEX servers (especially NEWNEWS.dial.pipex.com) have been quite
> erratic recently. I think the longest delay I've seen on one of my
> posts is 6 days...
Mmmm, Argo Emailed me earlier this month that I should be monitoring
the NEWS.dial.pipex.com server as the other servers 
(NEWSNEWS.dial.pipex.com and FLEECE.argonet.co.uk) were not reliable.

I monitored them ALL anyway ;-) (see my tagline - not random) which is
how I retrieved a large number of /missing articles/ , some up to a 
week old. I stuck with NEWNEWS, as NEWS was chronically lagging more
than 6 hours behind NEWNEWS. 

Also Telnet NEWS... gave me "423 Bad article numbers" but 
Telnet NEWNEWS... produced all the /missing articles/ (See below).

> Pipex have had problems recently where news postings have been missed
> in the transfer between their OWN news servers. They've escaped from
> the Pipex system, but haven't been transferred to Pipex' other news
> servers.

Interesting. How could I have found out instead of reading it here 
after the event? Reply by Email perhaps?

BTW the problem with the a.a n-groups has not manifested itself since
15 Jul but the server Aliases keep changing weekly (plug-bore-soap).
I'm currently on NEWS (soap.)

I trust that I may be permitted to post an earlier (edited) a.a.v article
here. Xposted to a.a.v, followup set to c.s.a.m.

Subject: !Missing News Recovery
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 20:36:21 BST
Message-ID: <na.d62f7647a9.a40040reghems@argonet.co.uk>

Re: ....missing articles....
>> I'm dealing with these by alternating between the "news" and "newnews"
>> servers every few days. If they take more than 24-36 hours to 
>> resurface I look on Telnet and download them from there before they 
>> disappear altogether.

 Telnet procedure posted to a.a.v "Good service"

> I still have not downloaded 7 articles of 10 Jul 18:55 "newnews" and
> 16 of 11 Jul 12:38 "news". ALL prior /missing/ articles since early 
> June from the /argonet groups/ (aaa, aam, aav, aa, azfc) have been
> recovered except aabin:122 of 21 Jun. /Permanently lost/ articles have 
> all been from csam and csap (Telnet gives "423 bad article article 
> number).

> I have found a few of these missing articles in earlier downloads
> (To do with blatant advertising and 'scanty clad' ladies), so I 
> suspect some of these may have been 'moderated'.

If anybody has a chronic loss of News, I'd suggest change of server from
news.dial.pipex.com to newnews.dial.pipex.com or vice versa. 
Reset next article numbers in <!Newsagent.Subscribe> to, say, the 
10 Jul 00:25 position. Mine were:

 10 Jul 00:25    13 Jul 14:30
 a.a.a:3563       :3595
 a.a.m:5022       :5063
 a.a.v:19353      :19433
 a.zfc:9340       :9473
 c.s.a.m:62487    :62626
 c.s.a.p:24393    :24499

Reset "Preferences.Expire history" to 14 days
      "Max.art. to fetch from group" to say 200 

Don't debatch after downloading but open the <Apps.News> file and note
the downloaded article numbers. If it is of interest, post here.

I looked on Telnet this morning for missing articles.
 
Found a couple on the "news.." (soap.) server but most produced the 
message "423 Bad article number". Then to make doubly sure I looked
on "newnews.." (plug) and lo and behold: most of the missing articles 
came up.

articles NOT recovered by 13 Jul 14:30
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[number detail snipped]

Copy of this emailed to Argo. Perhaps this will provide them with a 
stick to wave at Pipex.

* Discoveries are made by not following instructions.
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Uploaded to news.dial.pipex.com on Thu,24 Jul 1997.18:04:47