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In message <3537f9cf.15436247@news.demon.co.uk>
          paul@nospam.zero-g.demon.co.uk (Paul) wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Apr 1998 10:57:27 +0100, Kira L. Brown, or someone
> pretending to be Kira L. Brown wrote these words:
> 
> [deletia]
> 
> >You *can* run news and mail on 1 Mbyte and no hard disc.  I've done
> >it.  IRC too.  But you won't enjoy it at all.  On 2 Mbytes and, in
> >my case, a Zip drive (with the Alsystems drivers, if you don't like
> >pain) it's a bit easier, and you can *almost* run a web browser.
> 
> "almost" ?!? :-)

Well, I'll put it this way:  it runs, but tight isn't the word.
Neither is 'slow'.

> >I don't *think* you can run Internet 4 on an ARM250.  I've run

This is, of course, wrong.  You can run either.  5 is better though.

> >Internet 5, and while it's a bit of a fiddle (boot off a floppy
> >load new !Boot, etc, etc, strip down to get rid of memory-eating
> >modules etc.), it *does* work.
> 
> I've sorry to admit, I've no idea what Internet 4 and Internet 5 are.

They are internet protocol 'stacks'.  Different module versions.

> I'll go browse for them now. (I wonder how many sites AltaVista will
> come up with when I do a search? ;-)
> 
> >I'd recommend ArmTCP as your dialler, it works well and doesn't
> >use much memory.
> 
> Sounds good to me. Will that be *instead* of the Acornet dialler?

Absolutely.  (I find the Acornet thing to be over-complex, especially
on such small machines.)

> >As apps, you can just about manage Newsbase in 2 Mbytes, and I
> >wouldn't be without Zap 1.35 (it is so much smaller than the latest 
> >versions!) when dealing with the A3010.
> >
> >IRC is easy in 2 Mbytes.  POP and NewsHound run fine, as does 
> >Messenger.
> 
> Again, forgive my ignorance of all things Acorn, but apart from IRC, I
> haven't a clue what any of those apps are, or what they do. I can
> guess from the names; Newsbase and Newshound sound like Usenet

Newsbase is a news/mail server application, it sits and presides
over:

!Newshound, an excellent NNTP Usenet fetcher,
!POP, I-think-it's-ace-but-others-disagree POP3 fetcher

Messenger, a news and mail reader program
TTFN, another news and mail reader,
Pluto, yet another...

All the above use Newsbase to manage their mail and news.  You can mix
and match components.

> clients, POP and Messenger sound like mail clients, and Zap, I haven't
> a clue :-)

Zap is a 'fast text/memory editor', which isn't even a tenth of what it
does.

> >ArcWeb fits into 2Mbytes, at least in early versions.
> 
> I guess thats a browser ;-)

Just about...

> >As for other stuff, I suggest you try it and see.
> 
> I will. This is gonna be fun :-)

Hm, frustrating, certainly...

> >kira.
> 
> Thanks for the info. Nice name, btw.

Thank you!


kira.

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