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ahersee@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Andrew Hersee) writes:
: davism@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mik Davis) writes:
: >  As this project would seem to involve altering the filer in a fairly major
: >way, how about allowing directories to have sprites anyway (rather that having
: >to use up one of your characters labelling it) I don't know whether this would 
: >be anything like possible realy though.
: >  If we must have a 'special character' to mark a directory which has an icon
: >then can we have somethin unobtrusive like '-' NOT '*' or '?' etc. "~' might
: >be quite usefull...
: 
: Well I used to not have a label like you suggest. But the problem I had with
: this was that if another application went and did an IconSprite to include a
: sprite for it's windows and it so happened that I had a directory called that
: my sprite would get redefined. (Good example Arch World's Waiter program
: often had a sprite called Games)

  yes, I know what you are saying but there ought to be some way of getting 
around this using filetypes, after all, what are filetypes for if not to
do what 'filename extensions' do in DOS etc. And where's the point in having a
special filename character/extension when the directory has (presumably) a 
unique filetype anyway. What is needed is a system whereby a sprite is only
used for a directory if the name matches *AND* the file it's being used for
is of type 'directory'.

: 
: I now use a special character I never have used '*'. In my original letter I
: used * since the character I use does not exist in unix. I did in fact
: state this in the article. The character I use is the one that looks like:
: 
: 
:                \.-./
:                 | |
:                /`-'\
: 
: Well nearly anyway :-) Nothing uses that at the moment and I have never seen
: a sprite in the icon sprite pool with that character in it. Anyone know what
: that character is called ?

  I don't know what it's called but you are probably right about it not getting
used much.

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In article <1992Nov12.120228.26592@aston.ac.uk> davism@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mik Davis) writes:
>ahersee@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Andrew Hersee) writes:
>: davism@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mik Davis) writes:
>: >  As this project would seem to involve altering the filer in a fairly major
>: >way, how about allowing directories to have sprites anyway (rather that having

My first comment on seeing today's posts to c.s.a.t was WOAH! While, yes,
a lot of suggestions may be useful to Acorn for future official versions of
the filer, we are doing a patch hack without the benefit of 'real' source
code. I for one want to do the minimum possible to the filer to get the
results we are looking for.

As far as the development of the project goes - I volunteer to write all the
filer patch/hack code. Since Andrew mentioned apps, I nominate him to write
some nice apps ;-) Seriously, if you send me your modified filer Andrew, I 
could start work on integrating/expanding/etc - what do you think ? I don't 
think it is possible for 2 people to work on the same small piece of code - 
not in assembler anyway!

The way I am proposing to do this is to make the minimum possible patches
to the filer - which then communicate with another module which contains the
bulk of the code, provided SWI's, *commands, etc.

Re: all the toolsprites/etc. would anyone who does these like to email me
with them ? I will collect them, and then post them all in one archive to
Newcastle/etc when we have a reasonable collection.

New idea: Paul Fidler <praf1@uk.ac.cam.phx> suggested ages ago that we should
write a hack which maintains 2 or 3 sprite pools which are used as the
Wimp sprite pool depending on whether you are in low, high, or high mono
modes. When you change mode, you get the correct sprites. I think I will
put this is the main hack, since it is such an excellent idea! Just the sort
of thing Acorn might have/should have done ... Of course they probably
argue that most of their 'educational market' only ever use 1 screen mode,
and they are probably correct ...
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Nick Smith, Rm.226, Churchill College, Cambridge ! Email: nas20@uk.ac.cam.phx
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In article <1992Nov12.120228.26592@aston.ac.uk> davism@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mik Davis) writes:
> 
> I now use a special character I never have used '*'. In my original letter I
> used * since the character I use does not exist in unix. I did in fact
> state this in the article. The character I use is the one that looks like:
> 
> 
>                \.-./
>                 | |
>                /`-'\
> 
> Well nearly anyway :-) Nothing uses that at the moment and I have never seen
> a sprite in the icon sprite pool with that character in it. Anyone know what
> that character is called ?
>
>
	Well, I wouldn't swear to it but I think it is called an International Monetary Symbol
or something similar, and is used to signify all currency that you don't have a character for.
No word of a lie. (well, I may be wrong...)


	Doug. (dcw-a@minster.york.ac.uk)

In article <1992Nov12.112100.6909@dcs.warwick.ac.uk> ahersee@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Andrew Hersee) writes:
> The character I use is the one that looks like:
>
>
>               \.-./
>                | |
>               /`-'\
>
> Well nearly anyway :-) Nothing uses that at the moment and I have never seen
> a sprite in the icon sprite pool with that character in it. Anyone know what
> that character is called ?

Yes, it's the currency symbol.  I've seen old Swedish computers which
has this instead of the dollar sign.  In popular speak it is called
"sun" or "sofa pillow".


Kjetil T.