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5 total messages Started by Martin Skowronski Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:00
PIOS sells MAC Clones because they support the Amiga...NOT!!
#14037
Author: Martin Skowronski
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:00
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All,

I am sorry, but I can no longer sit quietly and not
speak out about the so-called strategies of PIOS to provide
the Amiga community with the next generation of AmigaOS compatible
computers.

It has been suggested that PIOS needs to sell MAC clones in order
to pay bills and continue research on Amiga development. This has
to be one of the most illogical business strategies since C= attempted
to further Amiga development with the sale of PC Clones!

As a rule, people do not jump from one platform to another willy-nilly.
There are many costs to pay when moving to a new platform including
the replacement of software and the re-learning of a new OS.

For every single MAC clone that PIOS sells, they are literaly removing
one potential buyer from the customer base for TRUE "next generation" Amigas.

It is sheer folly to market a product that is/will be in direct competition
with a product that you "really" want to market. Why doesn't PIOS re-sell
other products to "pay the bills"?  There is enough new tecnology being developed
and marketed every day that PIOS could choose to promote.

Technology that would not be in conflict with future Amiga sales.
Technology like Digital Video, Digital Storage, and Digital Communication.
They could re-sell laptops, palmtops, ISDN modems or anything that
wouldn't possibly interfere with the sale of future Amiga home computers.

From what I can tell, either PIOS is very naive about marketing, or they are
simply employing the same strategy that BE is using of engratiating themselves
with existing Amiga end-users in order to get their business.

In any case I'm not buying it!

Regards,
Martin
Re: PIOS sells MAC Clones because they support the Amiga...NOT!!
#14038
Author: Dave
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 00:00
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Martin Skowronski (martman@bridge.net) wrote:
> All,
> 
> I am sorry, but I can no longer sit quietly and not
> speak out about the so-called strategies of PIOS to provide
> the Amiga community with the next generation of AmigaOS compatible
> computers.
> 
<snip>
> In any case I'm not buying it!
> 

 If they can sell 10 Macs (probably to someone who is going to buy a Mac
anyhow) so I can get an Amiga, cheaper. I'll buy the cheaper Amiga.

Regards.
-- 


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Re: PIOS sells MAC Clones because they support the Amiga...NOT!!
#14035
Author: Byron Montgomerie
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 00:00
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Martin Skowronski (martman@bridge.net) wrote:
: It has been suggested that PIOS needs to sell MAC clones in order
: to pay bills and continue research on Amiga development. This has
: to be one of the most illogical business strategies since C= attempted
: to further Amiga development with the sale of PC Clones!

I would assume the decision was based on something like "Who'd going to buy
the beer?  Can't, out of cash.  Drag.  Well, ok, we need money, how can we
get some?  Could sell PCs.  Nah, everybody sells PCs and nobody makes much
from them.  Hey, Macs are being cloned now! Cool, that is where the amiga
should go, let's check it out.  Hey, if we sell some of these now we can make
some beer money until VIScorp gets off it's ass.  Let's do it.  What kind of
beer you want?  Anything over 7% alcohol. Cool, let'd get pie-eyed." :)

: For every single MAC clone that PIOS sells, they are literaly removing
: one potential buyer from the customer base for TRUE "next generation" Amigas.

If the only market VIScorp will ever have is existing amiga owners they will
drop quicker than ESCOM did.

: It is sheer folly to market a product that is/will be in direct competition
: with a product that you "really" want to market. Why doesn't PIOS re-sell
: other products to "pay the bills"?  There is enough new tecnology being developed
: and marketed every day that PIOS could choose to promote.

Why should their bank accounts be driven by the whining of the owners of 5 
year+ old computers?  They don't own the amiga rights after all, even if you
accept the supposition that whoever does should take care of people who have
never given them a dime in purchasing what they sell.

: Technology that would not be in conflict with future Amiga sales.
: Technology like Digital Video, Digital Storage, and Digital Communication.
: They could re-sell laptops, palmtops, ISDN modems or anything that
: wouldn't possibly interfere with the sale of future Amiga home computers.

Possibly because they don't have income coming in from their various oil
fields in Saudi Arabia and can't take on more than a few projects at a time.

: From what I can tell, either PIOS is very naive about marketing, or they are
: simply employing the same strategy that BE is using of engratiating themselves
: with existing Amiga end-users in order to get their business.

The baseline of all this is that you think the only people who will buy new 
amiga computers will be existing owners and that the market consists only of 
them.  I think that if this is true then the amiga is dead already.

: In any case I'm not buying it!

Noone is forcing you to. 

Regards,

BM
Re: PIOS sells MAC Clones because they support the Amiga...NOT!!
#14036
Author: Terrance Richard Boyes
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 00:00
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Byron Montgomerie (bmontgom@morgan.ucs.mun.ca) wrote:
> Martin Skowronski (martman@bridge.net) wrote:
> 
> : For every single MAC clone that PIOS sells, they are literaly removing
> : one potential buyer from the customer base for TRUE "next generation" Amigas.

Only potentially removing one of their Amiga clone customers, and potentially
gaining other customers. And while they're at it gaining experience in
actually operating as a company, making the kit, support, etc...
> 
> If the only market VIScorp will ever have is existing amiga owners they will
> drop quicker than ESCOM did.

But we're talking about PIOS not Viscorp. Viscorp plans are for low end set-top
boxes to sell to people who want that machine.

-- 
<URL:http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/1666>                  Team AMIGA
The United States also has its native Fascists who say that they are
"100 percent American"...  - U. S. Army (1945)
Re: PIOS sells MAC Clones because they support the Amiga...NOT!!
#14030
Author: Byron Montgomerie
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 00:00
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Terrance Richard Boyes (tez@pierrot.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: > If the only market VIScorp will ever have is existing amiga owners they will
: > drop quicker than ESCOM did.

: But we're talking about PIOS not Viscorp. Viscorp plans are for low end set-top
: boxes to sell to people who want that machine.

Oh, did VIScorp put out a release to the effect they were not going to get
into the desktop computer business?

Regards,

BM
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