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Re: Amiga vs (IBM & Mac)

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From: Dave Albrecht
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 1994 18:49
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From article <CKGIrv.24C@actrix.gen.nz>, by mstuart@swell.actrix.gen.nz (Mark Stuart):
> In article <CKD5on.Iqw@megatest.com> albrecht@megatest.com (Dave Albrecht) writes:
>> From article <2hjs2e$l2v@agate.berkeley.edu>, by myrtle@uclink.berkeley.edu (Alexis David Dinno):
>> I got an entire 486SLC66/2 (about 486DX40 speeds) motherboard with
>> 128K of external cache for all of $300.  What accelerators could I get
> ha ha ha ha ha ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ a 486SLC????? 486DX40 speeds????? ha ha
> ha ha ha ha ha ha ha (infinitely long hysterical laughing).
>> David Albrecht
>
>
> More like 386SX speeds! And Cyrix incompatibility with all sorts of
> hardware and software! Not to mention your bus is only _16_ bit!!! Not
> even Vesa!!! And the machine's motherboard is still only running at 33Mhz.
>
Not to rain on your parade or anything,
but the 486SLC66/2 is made by IBM not Cyrix and is compatible with
everything I have tried which includes a machine full of relatively exotic
cards, Windows, OS/2, Linux, 386bsd, etc.  This isn't too surprising since
it is based on an Intel 486 core without the floating point, rather than
being independently derived like the Cyrix chip.

I got the 486DX speed figure from the PC Tools/PC
Tools for Windows benchmarks and from timing heavy cpu real world tasks
(like jpeg viewers) which I compared vis a vis my Gen-u-ine Intel 486DX/50.
I'm glad you find it so amusing.

While the IBM Alaris 486SLC66/2 motherboard may be limited in some ways it
is a VESA MB.  In fact, I've got a 1280+/VLB video card in there right now.

Your point about the 16 bit bus is well taken as that is why the chip
runs at DX40 speeds rather than DX66/2, it is also why it costs $300
instead of $600, but then again almost 2/3s the performance for 1/2 the cost
ain't bad.

It is true that the motherboard runs at 33Mhz, but what exactly is your point?
The motherboard for a 486DX66/2 runs at 33Mhz as well and it is still faster
than my 486DX50 for which the motherboard runs at 50Mhz.  Oh, a true 66Mhz
version might be faster than the 66/2 but it would also break VESA cards
left and right and make it much harder to design a motherboard that works
with it.  For the piddly gain in performance I'll stay with 33Mhz motherboards
thank you.

Despite all your ranting and raving 486SLC66/2 motherboards eat 386SXs for lunch,
I also own a 386SX20 notebook and there is no comparison.  I apologize for
posting all this IBM crap to an Amiga group (I also own an A3000) but I
don't like the dissemination of misinformation no matter where it occurs.
Unlike some people I generally don't spout off on things that I know nothing
about.

David Albrecht
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From: albrecht@megatest.com (Dave Albrecht)
Subject: Re: Amiga vs (IBM & Mac)
Message-ID: <CKnw2o.1I0@megatest.com>
Organization: Megatest Corporation
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Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 18:49:44 GMT
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