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Re: Amiga 500: Upgrade or Update?

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From: William Near
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1995 00:00
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Maverick (halesk@xmission.xmission.com) wrote:

: NOBODY, but NOBODY uses the PCM slot for memory.   I also doubt a 1200 
: will sell much over $400 and maybe $600 with a hard drive.  Stick a 
: 030/50 in it with 4 megs, and it easily out perorms a 2000 even with a 
: GFC card.  i run a 030 with NO heat problems and I am getting a SCSI 
: interface to go along with it.  I can take my 1200 amywhere with no 
: problems and do not want to expand any further.  If I wanted a huge 
: setup, I would of bought a 4000.

Wrong. I have a friend that started with a PCMCIA 4 MB
card in his A1200 just so he could have some FAST RAM
on the machine when he first got it. I realize that
it's only 16-bit memory, but it sure beats the hell
outta having a stock A1200 with only 2 MB of CHIP RAM.

Your A1200 with '030 @ 50 MHz. will get stomped by my
G-Force 030/882 @ 50 MHz. and Picasso II RTG equipped
A2000. I have 8 MB of 32-bit RAM on the accelerator,
2 MB CHIP via the MegACHIP2000 board and 2 MB VRAM on
the Picassi II. I can easily run an 800x600x256
Workbench with no apparant slowdown of the system --
this is much more than can be said for the A1200's
Workbench. You only have the DblNTSC/PAL modes which
still flicker as compared to my rock solid Picasso
modes on my multisync monitor.

What are you gonna do when you blow a CIA on that A1200
motherboard? They're surface mounted along with almost
everything else on the A1200's motherboard. You aren't
going to go to the local dealer or ANYWHERE else to get
that machine repaired. I can pop ANY chip out of my
A2000 and replace it myself.

: People were giving up A1200's for A2000's here a while back. Interesting.
: now you can't GIVE a 2000 away.  I think I am quite happy withmy 1200.  
: I'll put it against any 2000.

I doubt that this statement is true. The market for ANY
Amiga is quite large and I feel the A2000 has its
rightful place along side of any other Amiga model.

When shall we start the challenge of your A1200 against
my A2000? BTW, here's my current setup:

A2000

2 INTERNAL 3.5" floppy drives (1 is high density)

GVP G-Force 68030/68882 running @ 50 MHz.

8 MB 32-bit FAST RAM

2 MB CHIP RAM

ICD Flicker Free Video 2

Picasso II RTG graphics board with its own Cirrus Logic
blitter on board and 2 MB VRAM

Magitronic 15" multisync monitor with full digital
controls

MultiStart II ROM switcher with 1.3 & 3.1 ROMs

Workbench 1.3 & 3.1 on the hard drive

GVP ioExtender board with a Supra V.34 modem and an
Epson LQ-510 printer attached

Trumpcard Pro SCSI controller with Quantum LPS270S hard
drive (I get 2.6 MPS reads from this combination)

Boing 3-button optical mouse

Yamaha YST-M10 speakers with 15 watts per channel


I will challenge your measly A1200 ANYTINE. You can't
touch me in: raw speed, video modes, expandability,
power supply capabilities, raw throughput of the serial
and parallel ports, hard drive transfer speeds, SCSI
capabilities, and sound quality (if you're using a 1942
etc. monitor with built-in speakers.

I still have empty Zorro II slots and IBM XT slots, not
to mention the video slot. I also have a DSS8+ audio
digitizer attached at the same time as my modem and
printer. I could easily add a tape backup unit and a
CD-ROM INTERNALLY to my machine. You are stuck with a
shitty IDE hard drive internally and one expansion bay
along with the PCMCIA slot.

I kill you hands down EVERYWHERE.


Bill

P.S. your only advantage is the AGA chip set and its
games capabilities. I can run most system-friendly AGA
software packages on my Picasso II board, but this
precludes most AGA games.
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From: wnear@$DOMAIN (William Near)
Subject: Re: Amiga 500: Upgrade or Update?
Date: 1995/04/17
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