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> Maverick (halesk@xmission.xmission.com) wrote:
> : NOBODY, but NOBODY uses the PCM slot for memory.   I also doubt a 1200 
> : will sell much over $400 and maybe $600 with a hard drive.  Stick a 
> : 030/50 in it with 4 megs, and it easily out perorms a 2000 even with a 
> : GFC card.  i run a 030 with NO heat problems and I am getting a SCSI 
> : interface to go along with it.  I can take my 1200 amywhere with no 
> : problems and do not want to expand any further.  If I wanted a huge 
> : setup, I would of bought a 4000.
> 
> Bill wnear@$DOMAIN (William Near)
> Wrong. I have a friend that started with a PCMCIA 4 MB
> card in his A1200 just so he could have some FAST RAM
> on the machine when he first got it. I realize that
> it's only 16-bit memory, but it sure beats the hell
> outta having a stock A1200 with only 2 MB of CHIP RAM.
> 
Now I may be wrong but, wasn't PCMCIA the ONLY choice for fast Ram 
at first? Nobody uses it now. Do they?


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> 
> What are you gonna do when you blow a CIA on that A1200
> motherboard?
> 
True, you can't just pop out a chip and replace it. But then how
likely is it to occur? None of my two Amigas have ever broken down.

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> 
> When shall we start the challenge of your A1200 against
> my A2000? BTW, here's my current setup:
> 
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> I will challenge your measly A1200 ANYTINE. You can't
> touch me in: raw speed, video modes, expandability,
> power supply capabilities, raw throughput of the serial
> and parallel ports, hard drive transfer speeds, SCSI
> capabilities, and sound quality (if you're using a 1942
> etc. monitor with built-in speakers.
> 
> I still have empty Zorro II slots and IBM XT slots, not
> to mention the video slot. I also have a DSS8+ audio
> digitizer attached at the same time as my modem and
> printer. I could easily add a tape backup unit and a
> CD-ROM INTERNALLY to my machine. You are stuck with a
> shitty IDE hard drive internally and one expansion bay
> along with the PCMCIA slot.
> 
A CD-ROM and a tape backup? And two floppies? Hmm, A2000 has 3 
bays accessable from the front panel. Do you plan on using
a hacksaw or a crowbar to fit another unit?


> I kill you hands down EVERYWHERE.
> 
> 
> Bill
> 
> P.S. your only advantage is the AGA chip set and its
> games capabilities. I can run most system-friendly AGA
> software packages on my Picasso II board, but this
> precludes most AGA games.
Wasn't that what the origional poster also wanted to do?

Anyway to summarise my feeling :- (Who am I? Oh just a nosey bystander)
The A2000 is obselete. In order to compete (or surpass) current kit,
you need to buy some expensive boards. And then you're still not
totally compatible. Sure for high end stuff who cares about AGA
(24-bit right?). Who cares about AGA Games? :-}

Now ranting and raving that your machine is bigger, faster, better than
someone elses is rather pointless. What you have to ask is, Is it fast
enough for YOUR needs? If you need ultimate speed buy an A4000 and stuff
fill it with an 060cpu, and 40ns Ram etc. Or a Raptor. (Or a Cray C90)
As for disk speed, get a SCSI-2 Fast Wide controller, and a stack of 
baracudas from Seagate.

But all of this comes down to MONEY. For a limited budget (ie. under a grand)
get an A1200 with a cheap IDE drive (2.5in's are almost as cheap as 3.5in's
now), and 4mb of fast ram (Trapdoor not PCMCIA). Get a monitor and have some
fun. If you want buy an external CD ROM drive, I don't feel the need, but you
might.

Please no more My setup is stonkingly better than your setup. I thought Amiga
nuts were beyond this PC / Mac problem. (Now they have a problem!)

Just so you know where I stand;
A2000 rev 6 motherboard. 1mb chip on board.
Aries 8mb ram board populated to 4mb.
Supra WordSync SCSI interface and Quantum LPS52 52mb drive.
Iomega Bernoulli 90Pro drive with 5 removable 90mb cartriges.
SSL A5000 accellerator card with 020 @ 16mhz,
 and 881 @ 25mhz, with 3mb of 32bit ram.
2 3.5in floppy drives, both double density.
Laserjet 3p printer
StereoMaster 8-bit sampler.
Kickstart 2.04 on chip, 1.3 via software.
Microway Flicker Fixer and Phillips SVGA monitor.
Phillips 32in widescreen telly for playing games while sitting on the sofa.

I'm happy, it suits my needs, and it's fast enough for me. I don't need
multi colour modes, although the flicker fixer is a god send.

Oh and sound - hooked up to 200watt RMS amp, with two 120watt speakers,
each with 15in woofers. Wonderful for parties and annoying neighbours.

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|David Gaff        | Opinions are mine, not DRA's.                            |
|drgaff@dra.hmg.gb | A2000, 020, 1mb Chip, 4Mb Fast, 3Mb 32-Bit, KS 2.04 + 1.3|
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|David Gaff        | Opinions are mine, not DRA's.                            |
|drgaff@dra.hmg.gb | A2000, 020, 1mb Chip, 4Mb Fast, 3Mb 32-Bit, KS 2.04 + 1.3|
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