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Re: JAVA + See some of my ideas

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From: Paul Boos
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 20:49
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Dr. Peter Kittel wrote:
> 
> In article <3064.6659T1306T1965@atnet.at> rabauke@atnet.at (Peter Routsis) writes:
> 
> How do you come to the conclusion that we ignore JAVA? I said that we
> are aware of the issue, but that it's obviously not necessary to do
> *another* version ourselves, as there is already some promising effort
> going on. I don't understand your point.

Neither do I and I guess that is the problem.  Dr. Kittel is right that 
there is a good effort underfoot.  What I guess would alleviate many 
concerns and everyone's part would be to know the role that AT would like 
to see for Java.  How would AT use Java to competitive advantage after it 
is ported?  And what contributions (if you can make any) will you do to 
the effort?

The one area I see the Amiga shining is that as AT you can talk the gane 
of the thin client, but really offer a "real" computer - namely you can 
have a hard drive and all of the other stuff these network computers 
ignore.  But you need something like Java to help make that argument 
stick.  And for these people that think Java is not needed because of 
Arexx don't simply understand the issue.  You would use Arexx on the 
server end to perform some tasks, while Java would be sent to the client 
from the server to perform others.  They are complementary.

I would also like to learn more about server-oriented database and web 
server efforts on going at either AT or your development partners.
> 
> This would be the same as blaming us to ignore UNIX, because we put no
> effort into reviving AmigaUNIX, while there are *two* competing versions
> alive out there, NetBSD and Linux.

And I believe the best approach in the UNIX area is to leave it alone... 
 Most people don't buy an Amiga to run UNIX, although they may want that 
option.  But, BTW does Amiga UNIX work on the A4000/040?  Anyone know? 
:-/
> 
> And I'm still a bit angry, that someone posts publicly from a private
> email exchange with myself.
> I would be too, I never realized this started from a private e-mail...

> >But more and more programmers will not support the Amiga anymore,
> >simple it does not work out financially, which can be understood easily.
> 
> Your conclusions are astonishing and plainly wrong. Please spare us
> such unfounded whinings. Talking down the Amiga in public is not a way
> to support the platform. And this was no justified criticism, but plain
> bullshit.

If his statement were true, I imagine you wouldn't be posting your 
message...  Keep at it!  

Paul Boos
Information Systems Engineer
System Planning Corporation
> 
> --
> Best Regards, Dr. Peter Kittel       //    Visit  http://www.amiga.de
> Private Site in Frankfurt, Germany \X/  Email to: peterk@combo.ganesha.com
> Employed at AMIGA Technologies GmbH in Bensheim, Germany
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From: Paul Boos <pboos@sysplan.com>
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Subject: Re: JAVA + See some of my ideas
Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 13:49:06 -0700
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