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Started by Zoltan Hunt
Tue, 09 Apr 1996 18:30
Amigas on the Net and TV!
Author: Zoltan Hunt
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 18:30
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 18:30
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Some idea maybe AT and/or other Amiga programmers could look at: Since it seems a lot of people talk about using Amigas with TVs to surf the 'net, there are about three problems: resolution, colors and image sizes. First, if you're displaying text on a TV, it can't be 80-column like on a computer. Second, some colours tend to run (try keeping RGB values below 230 in NTSC) and finally, with 28.8 modems, some pages I know could take near-fowever to load. I've come up with four suggestions for this: 1. ColorFonts (remember them?), instead of a big graphic, create a tag for using ColorFonts, then make 8-12 typefaces in maybe 3-4 sizes a standard part of the Amiga. These fonts could be then loaded of the harddrive as needed. Forget boring blacks & bles on a grey background. 2. IFF-ILBM support- for simple images (2-3) bitplanes these could be smaller and de-compress faster than GIFs + JPEGs. 3. While we're still in 256 (or less) color, how about we try to come up with a standard 256col palette, I know this might not work, but it could improve the look of graphics that other-wise may be over-dithered. 4. Lastly- Remember sound, there must be some good uses for sound FX- any ideas? I'm currently planning to re-do my Web page in an effort to create a "TV-friendly" page, remember TVs are best at displaying moving picture- not screens of hi-res text, I think with the idea of designing for the TV, we could have some really interesting things appearing. Comments?
Re: Amigas on the Net and TV!
Author: Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:39
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 20:39
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On 9 Apr 1996 18:30:24 GMT Zoltan Hunt (zhunt@calumet.yorku.ca) wrote: > Some idea maybe AT and/or other Amiga programmers could look at: > Since it seems a lot of people talk about using Amigas with TVs to surf > the 'net, there are about three problems: resolution, colors and image > sizes. > First, if you're displaying text on a TV, it can't be 80-column like on > a computer. Second, some colours tend to run (try keeping RGB values > below 230 in NTSC) and finally, with 28.8 modems, some pages I know > could take near-fowever to load. I have no colours that run on my screen, neither in PAL nor in NTSC. You are probably using a TV modulator (either built-in or external). I use the SCART connector and have no such problems. I can recommend using the SCART connector. > I've come up with four suggestions for this: > 1. ColorFonts (remember them?), instead of a big graphic, create a tag > for using ColorFonts [snip] No, no, no, don't create any more non-standard tags. There is no need for non-standard tags. Just look at what all the Netcrap has resulted in. > 2. IFF-ILBM support- for simple images (2-3) bitplanes these could be > smaller and de-compress faster than GIFs + JPEGs. Sure, use IFF ILBM's if you want to. All graphic Amiga web browsers support them. Remember, though, that they'll be much larger and take very long to load if the connection between the server and the client is slow. -- Regards, /¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯\ | Rask Ingemann Lambertsen | E-mail: c948374@student.dtu.dk | | Amiga GNU CC README maintainer | WWW: http://www.gbar.dtu.dk/~c948374/ | | Keyboard error: <Ctrl> and <Alt> are stuck - press <Del> to continue |
Re: Amigas on the Net and TV!
Author: Reto Burkhalter
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 08:37
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 08:37
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>> Zoltan Hunt >> 09.04.1996 Z)> First, if you're displaying text on a TV, it can't be 80-column like on Z)> a computer. Second, some colours tend to run (try keeping RGB values Z)> below 230 in NTSC) and finally, with 28.8 modems, some pages I know Z)> could take near-fowever to load. Z)> Z)> I've come up with four suggestions for this: Z)> Z)> 1. ColorFonts (remember them?), instead of a big graphic, create a tag Z)> for using ColorFonts, then make 8-12 typefaces in maybe 3-4 sizes a Z)> standard part of the Amiga. These fonts could be then loaded of the Z)> harddrive as needed. Forget boring blacks & bles on a grey background. These are not problems to be solved by AT. The specs of HTML describe a few fonts and that's it. It makes no sense to write an AMIGA-Web Language (most Surf-Computers are PC's or UNIX-Machines with Netscape). Z)> 2. IFF-ILBM support- for simple images (2-3) bitplanes these could be Z)> smaller and de-compress faster than GIFs + JPEGs. Not HTML Standard, sorry. Z)> I'm currently planning to re-do my Web page in an effort to create a Z)> "TV-friendly" page, remember TVs are best at displaying moving picture- Z)> not screens of hi-res text, I think with the idea of designing for the Z)> TV, we could have some really interesting things appearing. ??? No-one has a TV connected to the PC. (At least a few Amiga users.) I think a C1084 is much better than a TV (even to watch television). Reto
Re: Amigas on the Net and TV!
Author: Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 18:24
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 18:24
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On Thu, 11 Apr 96 8:37:01 GMT Reto Burkhalter (BORKI@zug.use.ch) wrote: > >> Zoltan Hunt > >> 09.04.1996 > > Z)> 2. IFF-ILBM support- for simple images (2-3) bitplanes these could be > Z)> smaller and de-compress faster than GIFs + JPEGs. > > Not HTML Standard, sorry. What do you mean "Not HTML Standard"? The HTML standard doesn't specify which image file formats you are allowed to use. You can use anything you want. -- Regards, /¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯\ | Rask Ingemann Lambertsen | E-mail: c948374@student.dtu.dk | | Amiga GNU CC README maintainer | WWW: http://www.gbar.dtu.dk/~c948374/ | | Keyboard error: <Ctrl> and <Alt> are stuck - press <Del> to continue |
Re: Amigas on the Net and TV!
Author: Reto Burkhalter
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 08:46
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 08:46
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>> Rask Ingemann >> 15.04.1996 RL> > Z)> 2. IFF-ILBM support- for simple images (2-3) bitplanes these could be RL> > Z)> smaller and de-compress faster than GIFs + JPEGs. RL> > RL> > Not HTML Standard, sorry. RL> RL> What do you mean "Not HTML Standard"? The HTML standard doesn't specify RL> which image file formats you are allowed to use. You can use anything you RL> want. But you better use picture format that everyone can decode... Reto
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