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In article <4699@sugar.hackercorp.com>, peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
> In article <6377@stsusa.com> jellson@stsusa.com writes:
>> Ok, so don't depend on ConMan, but if it is there please support it. I really
>> miss ConMans line editing and history functions in the XLISP environment.
> 
> I thought ConMan was a straight drop in for CON:, just like NEWCON: is. If
> that's the case, why wouldn't you have access to it from Xlisp?
> -- 
> Peter "Have you hugged your wolf today" da Silva <peter@sugar.hackercorp.com>
> `-_-'
>  'U` "Really, a video game is nothing more than a Skinner box."
>        -- Peter Merel <pete@basser.oz>
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Peter,
	You clearly know much more than I do about this topic so forgive me if
I am all screwed up here.  I messed around with XLISP (can't remember version
number) for some time trying unsuccessfully to get CONMAN to work with it and
I thought the reason it didn't work was because it used the RAW: device for
console I/O.

Since I posted the last comment somebody sent me a replacement source fragment
for XLISP that uses NEWCON: instead so possibly there are versions of XLISP 
out there that do support ConMan.

The purpose of my posting though wasn't really to discuss XLISP, it was
more a plea to build on the capabilities of ConMan rather to replace it.
IMHO ConMan provides the most useful and flexible command line environment
that I have ever used - which includes Unix, VMS, and VM/CMS, but not I must
admit, Smalltalk. 
          
You seemed to suggest in your later posting that Smalltalk would be built
on a full-screen editing user interface.  If that's so then I can see how
some features of ConMan would get in the way, the arrow keys for instance.
  
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