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Article #5131Re: Why put Kickstart on A3000 ROM? (was Re: 512K FastRam)
From: Marcel LeBlanc
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 1990 19:12
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 1990 19:12
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amc@ai.wustl.edu (Adam M. Costello) writes: >In article <1990Sep1.133213.6765@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> leblanc@eecg.toronto.edu (Marcel LeBlanc) writes: >>much rather pay for an extra 512K of RAM! The RAM costs less than the ROM, >>and has much faster access times (especially the SC RAM). Remember that all >RAM costs less than ROM? I'm surprised. How much less? RAM is faster than >ROM? I'm surprised. How much faster? It seems to me that ROM must be simpler >than RAM, so it should be easier and cheaper to make it faster. Why isn't it? "Why" is a good question, but I don't have the answer (maybe somebody else will post an answer). The best guess that I can offer is that ROM must be custom produced. Each ROM must have a separate custom mask (probably metalization), and is only produced in relatively small quantities, whereas RAM is mass produced at commodity prices. However, I do know that my company can buy 1Mb EPROMs (more expensive than ROMs if you have high enough volumes to recover the ROM NRE costs) for ~$10 each (1000 quantity) with 200ns access times. 1Mb DRAMs can be bought for ~$6-$7 with <100ns access time (so <200ns cycle time). This is probably why Commodore distibutes the "SetCPU" program to copy the Kickstart ROM to SC RAM even on the A3000 (note the SC DRAM has a best cycle time below 40ns). If somebody has more info, please post. >AMC Marcel A. LeBlanc -- Electrical Engg Computer Group, Univ. of Toronto ----------------------------------------------------------------------- leblanc@eecg.toronto.edu else: uunet!utcsri!eecg!leblanc
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!eecg.toronto.edu!leblanc Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.tech From: leblanc@eecg.toronto.edu (Marcel LeBlanc) Subject: Re: Why put Kickstart on A3000 ROM? (was Re: 512K FastRam) Message-ID: <1990Sep3.151233.17348@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> References: <1990Sep1.133213.6765@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> <1990Sep1.190150.5880@cec1.wustl.edu> Date: 3 Sep 90 19:12:33 GMT Lines: 29