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Article #6804Re: Pipe syntax... I think I'd better think it out again...
From: Pete Goodeve
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 1990 08:33
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 1990 08:33
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In <7072@sugar.hackercorp.com> (18 Nov),
Peter da Silva (peter@sugar.hackercorp.com) writes:
> About 6 years ago I got a bug up my ass about pipes being strictly linear.
> I played with various "better" shells, and implemented a couple of syntaxes.
> Working with a *text* interface I could never get anything better, though I
> must admit ksh has made a bit of a breakthrough on the output side...
>
> But...
> [... goes on to outline a "visual shell" scheme...]
Yes -- I pretty much agree. Prescribing multi-way links in ANY textual
language is bound to get pretty hairy. I don't foresee ever people typing
command lines like that. I've been trying it that way to test out my
manifold pipes, and -- unless I've planned it out on paper first -- I
ALWAYS end up chasing around to find which pipes I've left hanging THIS
time...! Errors are always recoverable, but a naive user could get lost
awfully fast. On the other hand, if you're willing to spend a little
effort debugging your scripts, I think it's very worthwhile to have such
a facility available.
A visual, two-dimensional, way of laying out your pipes would be ideal.
I've dreamed of such many times too. Even then, though, I'm not sure
that I see Joe/Jolene user bothering with drawing a layout for a single
command sequence. The end product would have to be some sort of executable
file -- a script again, I would guess -- that would be used repeatedly.
-- Pete --
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!watserv1!watmath!att!att!rutgers!apple!agate!violet.berkeley.edu!pete From: pete@violet.berkeley.edu (Pete Goodeve) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.tech Subject: Re: Pipe syntax... I think I'd better think it out again... Message-ID: <1990Nov19.083340.1835@agate.berkeley.edu> Date: 19 Nov 90 08:33:40 GMT References: <1990Nov18.090654.24747@agate.berkeley.edu> <7072@sugar.hackercorp.com> Sender: usenet@agate.berkeley.edu (USENET Administrator) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 28