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Started by Larry Phillips
Mon, 31 Dec 1990 12:20
Re: What's Wrong with ARP!!!!
Author: Larry Phillips
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 1990 12:20
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 1990 12:20
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In <SteveX.3234@omx.UUCP>, SteveX@omx.UUCP (Steve Tibbett) writes: >>In article <2312@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca> lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) writes: >>Certainly it's less dangerous, but I did name it the same. What if I had >>written a MOUNT that corrected a problem inherent in the CBM MOUNT, and called >>it MOUNT? Would I still get a flame for it? If I called it something other than >>MOUNT, it would njust mean that a lot of folks would rename it to MOUNT, just >>as anyone is free to rename any ARP program to something else. Personally, >>after DIR, LIST, and LS, I have a problem with attempting to come up with >>another meaningful name, should I actually want to keep some of the others >>around. > >I'd flame you for it. > >Two reasons... > > 1: When I update my C: directory with a new set of C: commands, > your mount would be a special case that I'd have to copy back > on after every update (or I'd just have to call it something else) I see this as an operational limitation imposed upon you, by yourself. This is one of the reasons for the 'PATH' command. Why remember two names for something, when one will do? When you need the 'other one', just prefix it with 'c:'. > 2: There is no way of knowing that your MOUNT will have all the > functionality of all future MOUNT's. If your mount is called > LPMount or some other name, then I can use it specifically for > the things I can't use the CBM mount for. Or the other way around. In either case, you are imposing limitations on yourself with your seeming reluctance to use the system's capabilities, specifically, 'rename' and 'path', in this case. >If the user takes LPMount and calls it MOUNT, then he's asking for his >own trouble, not being given it by you. Well, nobody is forcing anyone to actually replace any command with any other command, to place it in any particular place, or to call it any particular thing. To each his own. You may as well flame me for my early 'echo' command, though those that used it thanked me for it. -larry -- The best way to accelerate an MsDos machine is at 32 ft/sec/sec. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | // Larry Phillips | | \X/ lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca -or- uunet!van-bc!lpami!lphillips | | COMPUSERVE: 76703,4322 -or- 76703.4322@compuserve.com | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Re: What's Wrong with ARP!!!!
Author: Peter da Silva
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 1991 17:24
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 1991 17:24
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I've had people mucking around with my system screw me over with that before. You know, someone comes over and wants to run HAMGIF or whatever and starts mucking about with C:. Last time they managed to remove setpatch, then claim it was all due to a bug in 2.0 that setpatch disappeared. Right, and the same bug made nushow and hamgif materialise in C:? NEVER stick anything in C: that's not part of the distribution. It's just asking for trouble. -- Peter da Silva. `-_-' <peter@sugar.hackercorp.com>.
Re: What's Wrong with ARP!!!!
Author: Michael S Figg
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 1991 17:51
Date: Thu, 03 Jan 1991 17:51
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In article <7434@sugar.hackercorp.com>, peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes: > I've had people mucking around with my system screw me over with that > before. You know, someone comes over and wants to run HAMGIF or whatever > and starts mucking about with C:. Last time they managed to remove > setpatch, then claim it was all due to a bug in 2.0 that setpatch > disappeared. Right, and the same bug made nushow and hamgif materialise > in C:? > > NEVER stick anything in C: that's not part of the distribution. It's just > asking for trouble. > -- > Peter da Silva. `-_-' That sounds like a real good idea to me, but, are there any reports or knowledge of (poorly written) programs that look for something other than genuine AmigaDos release stuff in C:? I've probably put more than is healthy in my C: and should clean it out. ----- --Mike -- -------- o A herd of bagels | Michael Figg DSAC-FSD | | -- oo o o escaping from a deli. | DLA Systems Automation Center | | -- ooo oo Looking for Lox in | Cols, Ohio mfigg@dsac.dla.mil -------- o o all the wrong places | CIS: 73777,360
Re: What's Wrong with ARP!!!!
Author: Joe Smith
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 1991 09:01
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 1991 09:01
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In article <7434@sugar.hackercorp.com> peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>I've had people mucking around with my system screw me over with that before.
Me too. When I executed the harddisk-install program for FontWorks, it
wiped out a perfectly good version of arp.library with an obsolete version,
and overwrote C:copy WITHOUT MY PERMISSION.
>NEVER stick anything in C: that's not part of the distribution. It's just
>asking for trouble. >Peter da Silva. `-_-'
I agree. The bogus version of "copy" did not understand "copy clone a b"
which caused various scripts in S: to fail mysteriously. In this case,
overwriting a CBM-provided command in C: caused damage to my system.
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Re: What's Wrong with ARP!!!!
Author: Dave Schreiber
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 1991 18:21
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 1991 18:21
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In article <1409@tardis.Tymnet.COM> jms@tardis.Tymnet.COM (Joe Smith) writes:
>In article <7434@sugar.hackercorp.com> peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>>I've had people mucking around with my system screw me over with that before.
>Me too. When I executed the harddisk-install program for FontWorks, it
>wiped out a perfectly good version of arp.library with an obsolete version,
>and overwrote C:copy WITHOUT MY PERMISSION.
Do you keep your boot partition LOCKed? I lock both my boot partition
and my executables partition to prevent exactly this sort of thing.
While it's not foolproof (the 1.3 preferences program can write to a
locked partition :-), it's better than nothing.
>Joe Smith (408)922-6220 | SMTP: jms@tardis.tymnet.com or jms@gemini.tymnet.com
[I've set the Followup-To: line to c.s.a.applications; this seems to be
the appropriate group]
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or (but not both) davids@ucscb.ucsc.edu
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use it again."
Re: What's Wrong with ARP!!!!
Author: Patrick Atoon
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 1991 20:16
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 1991 20:16
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I haven't read the articles in this thread, so I don't know if this has
already been mentioned, but this is what is wrong with ARP:
Picture this s: directory....
Startup-Sequence
SPAT
...
...
Now use the Arp-copy command in this way:
copy s:s(t#?|p#?)
This will copy both Startup-Sequence and SPAT. Now use it this way:
copy s:s(t*|p*) ; Notice that the #? has been replaced by a *
This will only copy SPAT.
What is this?!?! Is "#?" not equal to "*"? Why? And I thought ARP was great
(well, actually I still think it's great, you just shouldn't use "*" in con-
junction with "|").
Just wanted to point the attention to this (little) error. See you,
Patrick
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