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peterk@combo.ganesha.com (Dr. Peter Kittel) writes:

>I still use Dillon UUCP 1.16, it works nicely for me since more than
>two years. But now suddenly a few newsgroups, those with the biggest
>traffic like csa.advocacy, didn't show up anymore. Closer investigation
>showed that the article numbers (the filenames) were in low number
>ranges, while the entries in .newsrc had gone beyond 32000. So
>obviously UUCICO wrapped around at the 16-bit border.

>Is there any way to teach this UUCICO 32-bit arithmetics without
>recompiling everything?

uucico doesn't deal with news (or mail...)  The problem is probably in
v1.16 of rnews.

Upgrading to v1.17b4 is one easy solution.



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In article <peterk.0m38@combo.ganesha.com> peterk@combo.ganesha.com (Dr. Peter Kittel) writes:
> 
> Is there any way to teach this UUCICO 32-bit arithmetics without
> recompiling everything?

Not AFAIK, you need to edit the .next files every now and then, or simply
erase your newstree completely. I have been using 1.17b4 for a year now,
BTW, this version has quite some bugfixes, especially in sendmail. I don't
know if the 32k boundary has been fixed for news, but my UULIB:seq file
shows ~59000, so maybe it was.


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In article <peterk.0m38@combo.ganesha.com> peterk@combo.ganesha.com (Dr. Peter Kittel) writes:
> I still use Dillon UUCP 1.16, it works nicely for me since more than
> two years. But now suddenly a few newsgroups, those with the biggest
> traffic like csa.advocacy, didn't show up anymore. Closer investigation
> showed that the article numbers (the filenames) were in low number
> ranges, while the entries in .newsrc had gone beyond 32000. So
> obviously UUCICO wrapped around at the 16-bit border.
>
> Is there any way to teach this UUCICO 32-bit arithmetics without
> recompiling everything?

I fixed this problem when I took over AmigaUUCP from Matt in 1992
(91? - I forget). 1.17b4 is available for FTP on stargate.warped.com
and on wade1.ab.umd.edu. It's a "drop-in" replacement, but I
recommend you read the changes files.

It really has nothing to do with 16-bit arithmetic by the way.
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In article <aTmosh.19xl@amiga.ow.nl> aTmosh@amiga.ow.nl (Thomas Tavoly) writes:
> In article <peterk.0m38@combo.ganesha.com> peterk@combo.ganesha.com (Dr. Peter Kittel) writes:
> > Is there any way to teach this UUCICO 32-bit arithmetics without
> > recompiling everything?
>
> Not AFAIK, you need to edit the .next files every now and then, or simply
> erase your newstree completely. I have been using 1.17b4 for a year now,
> BTW, this version has quite some bugfixes, especially in sendmail. I don't
> know if the 32k boundary has been fixed for news, but my UULIB:seq file
> shows ~59000, so maybe it was.

The 32K boundary has been removed. You shouldn't need to edit anything.
I've got a couple of groups with numbers in the 250K area.
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In article <peterk.0m38@combo.ganesha.com> peterk@combo.ganesha.com (Dr. Peter Kittel) writes:
> I still use Dillon UUCP 1.16, it works nicely for me since more than
> two years. But now suddenly a few newsgroups, those with the biggest
> traffic like csa.advocacy, didn't show up anymore. Closer investigation
> showed that the article numbers (the filenames) were in low number
> ranges, while the entries in .newsrc had gone beyond 32000. So
> obviously UUCICO wrapped around at the 16-bit border.

As I said before: upgrade to AmigaUUCP 1.17b4.

What I didn't ask: what newsreader? You may need an upgrade
there as well.
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In article <mbs.4apf@adastra.cvl.va.us> mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith) writes:
>In article <peterk.0m38@combo.ganesha.com> peterk@combo.ganesha.com (Dr. Peter Kittel) writes:
>>
>> Is there any way to teach this UUCICO 32-bit arithmetics without
>> recompiling everything?
>
>I fixed this problem when I took over AmigaUUCP from Matt in 1992
>(91? - I forget). 1.17b4 is available for FTP on stargate.warped.com
>and on wade1.ab.umd.edu. It's a "drop-in" replacement, but I
>recommend you read the changes files.

Thanks for the hint.

>It really has nothing to do with 16-bit arithmetic by the way.

Indeed I found out myself after some nice people sent help info via
mail (rnews explicitly does a 15-bit masking, weird). Many thanks again.

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In article <mbs.4apj@adastra.cvl.va.us> mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith) writes:
>
>What I didn't ask: what newsreader? You may need an upgrade
>there as well.

No problem here, I'm using a self-written one, yes, in AmigaBasic :-).
I just ftp'ed the current version of ACE and am thinking of porting it
to ACE Basic, so that I can make it public. Let's see.

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In article <peterk.0mf6@combo.ganesha.com> peterk@combo.ganesha.com (Dr. Peter Kittel) writes:
> In article <mbs.4apj@adastra.cvl.va.us> mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith) writes:
> >
> >[newsreader]
> 
> No problem here, I'm using a self-written one, yes, in AmigaBasic :-).

Ack! You must be seriously kidding.. AmigaBASIC was one of the slowest and
buggiest programs I ever used on the Amiga. Which figures, as it was the
usual MS standard rushjob. I even found the C=4032's BASIC 4.0 better (which
is MS too, BTW)..


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In article <peterk.0mf6@combo.ganesha.com> peterk@combo.ganesha.com (Dr. Peter Kittel) writes:
> In article <mbs.4apj@adastra.cvl.va.us> mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith) writes:
> >
> >What I didn't ask: what newsreader? You may need an upgrade
> >there as well.
> 
> No problem here, I'm using a self-written one, yes, in AmigaBasic :-).

Cookie!

In article <aTmosh.1bx3@amiga.ow.nl>, Thomas Tavoly writes:

> Ack! You must be seriously kidding.. AmigaBASIC was one of the slowest and
> buggiest programs I ever used on the Amiga.

You can safely claim that anywhere, except for a newsgroup Peter is
reading. (/me searches his Nomex underwear...)

BTW: de.comp.sys.amiga.uucp does not exist.

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In article <IS-my*Rrg@yaps.rhein.de> arno@yaps.rhein.de (Arno Eigenwillig) writes:
> 
> BTW: de.comp.sys.amiga.uucp does not exist.

Tell that to Dr. Kittel, I just followed up without changing the headers :)


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de.comp.sys.amiga.uucp does not exists anymore and that already for a
year or two!  Use de.comp.sys.amiga.comm instead.

I added it and set the followup-to line to only point to the valid
newsgroups.

In article <aTmosh.1bx3@amiga.ow.nl>, Thomas Tavoly <aTmosh@amiga.ow.nl> wrote:

>In article <peterk.0mf6@combo.ganesha.com> peterk@combo.ganesha.com (Dr. Peter Kittel) writes:

>> No problem here, I'm using a self-written one, yes, in AmigaBasic :-).
>
>Ack! You must be seriously kidding.. AmigaBASIC was one of the slowest and

You never heard of Dr. Peter Kittel?  The person knowing how to make
AmigaBasic work on an Amiga 1234 with AmigaOS 5.67 or whatever hard-
and software he gets his hands at?  Probably the last AmigaBasic user?
You read the wrong newsgroups.  ;-)

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In article <aTmosh.1bx3@amiga.ow.nl> aTmosh@amiga.ow.nl (Thomas Tavoly) writes:
>In article <peterk.0mf6@combo.ganesha.com> peterk@combo.ganesha.com (Dr. Peter Kittel) writes:
>> In article <mbs.4apj@adastra.cvl.va.us> mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith) writes:
>> >
>> >[newsreader]
>> 
>> No problem here, I'm using a self-written one, yes, in AmigaBasic :-).
>
>Ack! You must be seriously kidding..

Not kidding, seriously. Though I have a bit different AmigaBasic than
you perhaps have experienced... I run my newsreader in interpreted
mode and it runs completely up to my demands, also speed-wise (on a
normal 25-MHz A3000).

> AmigaBASIC was one of the slowest and
>buggiest programs I ever used on the Amiga. Which figures, as it was the
>usual MS standard rushjob. I even found the C=4032's BASIC 4.0 better (which
>is MS too, BTW)..

Oops, I have worked with this version for several years day and night
(ok, there were some breaks :-) on my own 8032, but AmigaBasic really
has some features going for it.

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In article <IS-my*Rrg@yaps.rhein.de> arno@yaps.rhein.de (Arno Eigenwillig) writes:
>In article <aTmosh.1bx3@amiga.ow.nl>, Thomas Tavoly writes:
>
>> Ack! You must be seriously kidding.. AmigaBASIC was one of the slowest and
>> buggiest programs I ever used on the Amiga.
>
>You can safely claim that anywhere, except for a newsgroup Peter is
>reading. (/me searches his Nomex underwear...)

Uh, I'm not so picky.

>BTW: de.comp.sys.amiga.uucp does not exist.

Hmm, my article counter is at 28, could be a bogus newsgroup, not
totally dead...

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