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Started by BobR
Fri, 19 Apr 1996 04:27
Re: Hoaxes (was: **Internet Virus!**)
Author: BobR
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 04:27
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 04:27
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>however the plethora of accelerator cards for it... A handful of very expensive hardware hacks is a "plethora" of "accelerator cards"..? I think not... a "plethora" is "the state of being too full, an overabundance, excess"... Hardly the state of anything relating to the Atari ST. >How many accelerators can you get for your PC? How many would you like..? Let's see... there's the Evergreen 586 processor upgrade with the Cyrix 586 chip to upgrade '486 systems, the Evergreen DX4 upgrade for '486SX or DX systems to 100Mhz speed ($99), and the Evergreen upgrades for '386 systems to '486 chips. Then there's the CPU MAXmizer upgrades in 75, 100, 120 and 133 Mhz speeds to take a '486 system to Pentium power, and the 100 Mhz '486 MAXimizer to upgrade slower '486 systems to 100Mhz speed (that's $129). Also available is the CPU MAXimizer 686-100 and 120 to upgrade Pentiums. There's the Make-It 586 upgrade to replace a '486 chip with a Pentium class processor at up to 133 Mhz ($179-$219), and the Make-It DX4 upgrade for 286, 386 or 486 machines (give your 286 machine a 486 processor for $99). Not to mention the Intel Overdrive "accelerators", and all the others... >...little has changed since then - video is still card based rather than >using (possibly separate) motherboard ram. "Still" card based..? Of course it is.. for the extreme flexibility that easily changed cards afford. You want a different video capability than was built into your ST's motherboard..? Hack and slash time.. solder, cut and hack. You'll notice the TT and VMEbus Atari machines are "card based" for video flexibility too. >PCers rarely use lower because they have been brainwashed that lesser >colours are (ugh!) primitive, nasty and (sometimes) not even available. Or perhaps they don't want to use 16 color mode (like the best the ST can do) because it is plain butt ugly compared to 256 color modes. You see, they're not stuck with 16 or 4 colors, and they can tell which looks better.. also they're not forced into rationalizing that "16 colors isn't alll that bad, really it isn't". >Most just plug-in and go with whatever setup the machine was in when >shipped to them, and remain blissfully ignorant of anything else the >hardware is capable of. Right. I guess that explains the zillion-dollar-a-year business in addon cards.. and all the catalogs and retail stores full of replacement addon cards. Most don't buy them, so that explains why there are so many available. >Lesser colours onscreen will give faster video performance, smaller video >RAM requirements, and cheaper video hardware. Very true. I guess that means an 8-bit Atari 800 is FAR better than an ST because it has fewer colors available and far smaller video RAM requirements. It's cheaper too. And a Timex-Sinclair only has 2 colors max available, so it must be even better. >The most common use of computers is for wordprocessing. Actually I've read that entertainment and multimedia are the leading "application" on home computers of the type we've been discussing. 256 colors are essential for that kind of software. >A PC as a home computer (read "games box") is overkill. Why spend >thousands on an obsolete-before-you-buy-it PC when, for one tenth the >price, you can buy a console. Why spend thousands indeed..? When nicely games-capable computers are available for far less than $1000. Also, "console" games will never measure up to the quality and complexity of computer based games. You'll NEVER see games like X-Wing and Tie Fighter on a console. There just isn't enough RAM or mass (writable) storage. You'll never have a game as versatile as computer-based DOOM either, because of the same requirements. Consoles are good for quickie "shootemup" and "beatemup" style games, but for anything with very much substance, you need more resources than consoles can provide for that "one tenth the price". OK.. here's the deal. The Atari ST was a great computer in its day. It died a horrible death at the hands of the people who ran the company and I'm really pissed about that. The ST was my all-time favorite computer, just slightly edging out my Atari 8-bit computers (very slightly). But comparing it to a currently produced system and trying to rationalize its limitations into strengths is futile. Faster is better, more colors is better, larger mass-storage is better, stereo multi-voice sound is better, versatile expandability is better, and on and on. If Atari had kept up developing the hardware, then maybe we'd have a competitive system today, but they didn't, and we don't. We have a nice memory of a really great computer. BobR
Re: Hoaxes (was: **Internet Virus!**)
Author: bmeyer
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 22:30
Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 22:30
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BobR <76702.1466@CompuServe.COM> writes: >>Lesser colours onscreen will give faster video performance, smaller video >>RAM requirements, and cheaper video hardware. Boy, have I got news for you.... Most modern video cards are fastest in 256 colour SVGA modes. 16 colour modes arebanked modes, and thus inherently slow for quite a few operations. >And a Timex-Sinclair only has 2 colors max available, so >it must be even better. Now _that_ goes without questioning, I presume? Bernie -- ============================================================================== I just switched back yo my good old home system. I might have lost articles in the process, and there might be stuff that is not set up properly yet. Please bear with me...... ;-)
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