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Article #21222Re: Falcon030 Resolutions - 1 Meg not enough?
From: Len Stys
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 15:21
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 15:21
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In a previous article, hyc@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Howard Chu) says: >In article <1gu8d9INN8qf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys) writes: >>If I'm incorrect, please feel free to post. :) > >Heh. Wouldn't dream of doing anything else... }-) Thanks Howard, but now you confused the hell out of me even more. >>384x480 overscanned >>There may be a small flicker when using graphics on a TV--no one really >>knows how bad it may be. Any developer care to test it? > >I still don't understand what you're thinking. Any visible flicker would be >identical in both of these modes (320x480 and 640x480). As I already mentioned, >it is only noticable for single-pixel thickness horizontal lines. All of the >info I've posted on this subject is from first-hand experience. There is nothing >to "test" about it. If you draw a lot of horizontal lines, they'll look pretty >bad, unless the line color and background color have similar luminance. This is >a simple fact of interlaced video. What I'm asking is what I'm asking. How bad would be the flicker even if the line color and the background color have similar luminance? Could games like Links Golf in 640x480 be displayed on a television without giving you a headache? (A normal TV set, nothing special) I thought the reason the Amiga flickers is because of its interlaced video, no? >> >>I am NOT sure if 320x480 (normal), 320x240 (line-doubling), >>640x480 (normal), and 640x240 (line-doubling) can be displayed on a TV >>or a SC1224 monitor OR if they can be interlaced. The information >>from John Townsend makes it unclear. > >All resolutions can be displayed on a TV. Line-doubling is a feature used to >adapt the low resolutions to the high VGA scan rate and is meaningless for >the TV. The 200 (240) row modes are non-interlaced. Period. This is why I was confused. This chart is from Atari Advantage Magazine, it was provided by John Townsend of Atari. COLORS MODE MONITOR RESOLUTION 4 normal TV 320x200 16 normal TV 320x200 256 normal TV 320x200 True normal TV 320x200 4 interlace TV 320x400 16 interlace TV 320x400 256 interlace TV 320x400 True interlace TV 320x400 4 normal vga 320x480 16 normal vga 320x480 256 normal vga 320x480 True normal vga 320x480 4 line-doubling vga 320x240 16 line-doubling vga 320x240 256 line-doubling vga 320x240 True line-doubling vga 320x240 Now, I pretty much understand that the TV will display 320x200 without interlace. But, according to the above, it will not display 320x400 without using interlaced video. The second part does not mention TV at all or interlace. All it mentions is "vga" and that is probably where I'm getting lost. Is the "vga" overscanned? But the "tv" is capable of being overscanned as well, no? >> >>It is CLEAR that 2 Megs would be more appropriate as the minimum amount >>shipped with a Falcon030 if Atari wishes to make the Falcon030 an >>excellent game platform. > >Personally I would go with 4 meg as the bare minimum. Do you think that average person looking for a low-costing computer would be attracted to 4 Megs from a marketing view? That's at least another $100. And then you start getting into $899 or $999 and start slipping away from $799 or even LOWER... RAM is not so expensive anymore, but it still raises the price of the computer quite a bit. > >All true wisdom is conveyed in one-line witticisms. > --
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!haven.umd.edu!darwin.sura.net!spool.mu.edu!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!aa399 From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Falcon030 Resolutions - 1 Meg not enough? Date: 19 Dec 1992 15:21:25 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA) Lines: 98 Message-ID: <1gvellINNpt8@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> References: <1992Dec19.093728.11765@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> <1gu8d9INN8qf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Reply-To: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys) NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu