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Re: KnifeST

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From: W.A.B.Evans
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 18:09
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In article <1i96npINN1lo@golem.wcc.govt.nz> sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>In article <2648@eagle.ukc.ac.uk>, wabe@ukc.ac.uk (W.A.B.Evans) writes:
>>e.g.  FSCK by Georg Lohse and DLII and REORG by Simon Poole, and more recently
>>CLEANUP by ICD and some tools I developed myself.
>
>Never ever use these prpgrams to fix hard disk problems,( FSCK-DLII/REORG) they
>have more bugs that Bugs have..
>
	I HAVE been using these quite satisfactorily for my old SH-205
(20 Mbyte) Atari Hard Disk. These programs were developed round about the
time that (SH-205) hard disk was the current (Atari) model and have NOT been
upgraded to keep up with developments in later TOS'es and Hard Disks. I
certainly would not use these on my recent ICD hard drive.

	Hence it is no wonder that you might find them "buggy" if you have a
recent hard disk - but it is unfair to the original authors to call these
"incompatibilities with more recent software/hardware" bugs. Mind you, having
made this point, I'm sure these (like most others) do have a few bugs but
these are NOT so frequently encountered as to render these programs unduly
dangerous or ineffective when used with the "earlier" drives for which they
were designed.

>CleanUp it nothing like KnifeST and I found that it failed with a hard disk
>problem, that Ataries CHKDSK3 showed up, cross link clusters..???
>
	Both are disk repair utilities - though I agree they're not quite the
same. CLEANUP, though hardly perfect, is, in my opinion, far more up-to-date
than KnifeST ver 1.10. By the way, where can one get this CHKDSK3 program
that more than one of you rave about?
>
>BGM Partitions, I think Atari took to long in bringing out a standard,
>is it one,? and most other hard drive firms ended up developing there own..
>
	As I understand things, BGM Partitions are Partitions where the
logical sector size is other than 512 bytes ( usually 1024, 2048 or 4096
bytes). This allows you to have partitions of much greater size than 16 Mbytes
(or 32 Mbytes on TOS 1.4 and above). I first met the term in my ICD manual
when I obtained my hard disk. Since you appear to have ICD's CLEANUP, I'm
surprised you are not familiar with the term. Provided programs "look up"
the logical sector size from the Bios Parameter Block, i.e. NOT assume it
is 512, they should handle BGM Partitions quite satisfactorily. I'm sorry
to say that, despite a claim by Hisoft to have corrected errors in dealing
with Partitions of greater logical sector size than 512, I got erroneous
statistics when I used KnifeST (1.10) to query my BGM partition (F:\) where
the logical sector size was 1048 and size about 40 Mbytes though the same
option worked fine on the other (non BGM) partitions.
>
>Does any one support BGM Partitions..??
>
	Yes, ICD for one.

					Regards,	W. Alan B. Evans
							[ wabe@ukc.ac.uk ]
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From: wabe@ukc.ac.uk (W.A.B.Evans)
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Subject: Re: KnifeST
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Date: 5 Jan 93 18:09:13 GMT
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