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In article <72912@cup.portal.com> Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com writes:
>An immature child apparently using someone else's account
>(csullogg@cc4.crl.aecl.ca) wrote:
> 
>(Just for example)
> 
>>>What your close minded little message doesn't point out is that most
>>>PCs (or Mac or Amigas for that matter) are not disposable computers
>>>like the Atari ST is. An upgrade typically involves replacing a card
>>>or plugging in a new card, not throwing away the whole computer and
>>>buying another one.

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>>*        The paragraph above is just PURE bullshit               *
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>That's what I love about dyed-in-the-wool, die-hard, card-carrying
>Atari Cheerleaders...  their clear, lucic and factual arguments to
>support their positions.

Well, I was willing to let that one go, since it seemed to have been
elaborated on sufficiently, already.

For the gory details, let's look at Mac history. The original Mac, released
in 1984, came with 64K ROM and 128K RAM. This configuration was too tiny for
the compiler to run in, and as a result, all Mac software development had to
be cross-compiled from Lisas. To upgrade this system, you could get some 3rd
party gear (Levco and Hyperdrive spring to mind) and butcher the boards to
cram in 512K and a 10 or 20 meg hard drive. A year or so later Apple repented
their erring ways and released the Fat Mac, which also came with a whopping
512K of RAM, but still the same old 8-1/2" 512x342 screen. Ok, so later we see
the Mac Plus, with an astounding 1MB of RAM, and a 128K ROM. You could upgrade
your Fat Macs to Mac Plus's by, guess what, ripping out the motherboard and
sending it back to Apple to get a new one. Same story again when the SE was
introduced, etc. etc.

At least with the ST, you had a usable memory configuration from the start
(512K and 1MB in '85) and space on the board to upgrade to a full 4 MB,
without *requiring* you to jury-rig the RAM... And a real DMA bus for adding
a hard drive, instead of soldering a hard drive interface onto the CPU pins...
I dunno about the Amiga, but anyone who claims that Macs are genuinely
upgradable is either a moron or has been brainwashed by the idiotic Apple
propaganda.

The point being - we've already rehashed time and time again how "upgradeable"
PCs are. But to claim that Macs are upgradable *is* just pure BS, in my book.
You throw away the motherboard and buy a new one. There's no *computer* left
in that case when the motherboard is pulled out, just a bunch of inert plastic
and a wimpy power supply that overheated and burned out in 40% of the
production runs.
-- 
  -- Howard Chu @ Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA

There's a rough border between genius and insanity, but I'm a dual citizen.