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In article <579@atari.UUCP> neil@atari.UUCP (Neil Harris) writes:
>In article <2337@usceast.UUCP>, tech@usceast.UUCP (Bill Wood) writes:

>> I am MAD AS HELL AT DIGITAL RESEARCH!!!

>While I cannot, in my official capacity here, cast aspersions on Digital
>Research, there are certainly those who echo Bill Wood's sentiments.  The
>bottom line is, GEM was there when we needed it.  The alternative, Windows,
>would have probably taken an extra year, a year we could not afford.


I tend to agree that DRI GEM is not what it is all seems to be, at least 
it is a semi workable OS albeit brain-damaged.

>We've been working hard at going through the code and making it work as best
>we can, especially in the case of problems (like the 40 folder limit) that
>turn up as we go along.


I for one can see the effort put forth by the staff at Atari to fix the 
bugs in the current OS.  

>All in all, a most interesting set of observations, Bill.
>
>> 	By the way Neil, if you are reading this, I sure hope that you
>> guys will remember us when you get around to designing you 32-bit
>> system. I would very much rather give you guys $1500.00 or so for a box
   
   (remainder of paragraph deleted)

>As a matter of fact, the system you describe is almost exactly what we're
>working on.  In the works is a 68020-based system which has none of its own
>I/O except for a pair of DMA ports.  It will plug into the back of a current
>ST computer and act as a high-powered number cruncher.  The 68881 and
>Motorola MMU will also be part of the hardware, with UNIX system V or some
>close relation being the software part.  The ST acts as a "genius terminal".


	That is the very thing that I am looking for Neil.  I have seen
a lot of veteran users around chicago 'throwing away' the GEM interface
at almost every occasion and reverting to a UNIX like environment.  The
guys (and gals) seem to be using Micro-c-shell or similar for most 
work.  The generic users are still using GEM but the hobby programmers 
are using a Command line interface.  One comment on UNIX system V or
"some close relation".  Make it TRUE Unix system 5.X!  And throw away the
MSDOS  compatability for file structure, diskette usage, etc.  True it 
might be a nightmare to write a manual for the new user describing the 
system, but this new sytem that you describe is not for the new user
anyway.  I had some serious second thoughts about the ST series and the
future, but with what you are telling us I will hang in there.  I 
personally want a system that has UNIX system 5.X, capabilities for 
2-6 serial ports and can support any size or number of drives.  Of 
course the system will come with all 'c' tools for programming and some
type of 'vi' editor.  Now for the good part.  Sell the critter for 
$1200-$2200!  If all of these requirements are met let me know what the
final cost is with shipping and I will transfer the funds now!  If you
are taking orders put me down for one (maybe two).

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--->Neil Harris @ Atari...{hoptoad, lll-lcc, pyramid, imagen, sun}!atari!neil


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