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Subject:      Info-Atari16 Digest V87 #130
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Info-Atari16 Digest   Wednesday, March 18, 1987   Volume 87 : Issue 130

This weeks Editor: Bill Westfield

Today's Topics:

                        STarter Kit dissolved
                        Hippo video digitizer
                 UUCODE desk accessory ordering info
                            520 in Canada
                        Request for propaganda
                        The new USENET groups
                       Re: Re: RAMD_LED - (nf)
                     Re: moving across the ocean
                     Re: News From Hannover Messe
                       Re: clearing the screen
                 Re: Two questions on ST add-{o|i}ns
                     Re: News From Hannover Messe
                   Re: Adding another Hard Drive??
                     Re: News From Hannover Messe
                        Re: Blit/ROM upgrades

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Date: 12 Mar 87 13:35:00 GMT
From: ihnp4!inuxc!iuvax!franco@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: STarter Kit dissolved
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

Now that there are formal ways to obtain PD software for the ST (by means of
Turner, Demillo etc...) the need for the STarter Kit has dissolved.
Therefore, effective immediately, the Bloomington ST users will no longer
make copies of the STarter Kit available (In three days the STarter Kit will
really be dissolved as I will reclaim the disks containing it at that time).

Over 200 copies of different versions of the STarter Kit were mailed out and
many of these were duplicated and redistributed.  The operation went very
smoothly - nearly everyone followed instructions to a T and sent the correct
amount of postage or more and everyone formatted their disks properly once
that request was made.  Thank you!

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Date: 13 Mar 87 13:47:03 GMT
From: kodak!ektools!bruce@CS.ROCHESTER.EDU  (Bruce D. Nelson )
Subject: Hippo video digitizer
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

I have a HippoVision video digitizer recently purchased at my user's group
auction. All over the package, it states it works on b&w or color monitors.
(I mean the program displays on a color or b&w system.)

So far it works on a color system (via the modulator output), but all I get
on the b&w monitor is a bunch of vertical bars of different densities.

Does anyone out there have any experience with the HippoVision? I can use it
via the modulator to my color tv, but I'd rather use the b&w monitor. Is there
any company that took over Hippo's support or knows anything about their
products?

Bruce D. Nelson, Sr. Appl. Analyst: Software Maintenance, Production Systems
EASTMAN KODAK COMPANY, 901 Elmgrove Rd., Rochester, NY 14650, 716 726-7890
UUCP:   {allegra, seismo}!rochester!kodak!ektools!bruce
ARPA:   kodak!ektools!bruce@rochester.ARPA

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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 87 01:01:42 EST
From: Michael DeCorte <l40a%CLUTX.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu>
To: INFO-ATARI16@SU-SCORE.ARPA

>>...Is there a
>> program to check the drive speeds for the ST, and if so how do you adjust an
>> incorrect speed?
>>
>   There is a public domain program, although I haven't personally seen it,
> that does this.  One thing to remember, though, is that you can't adjust
> the drive speed on ST drives the same way you can on 8 bit drives.
> (There's apparently no easily adjusted pot, the way there was on 810's).

I wrote a little program to check disk speeds a while back.  It is on
BIX.  If anyone want's it, I will send it to you.  The reason I wrote
it was I was interested if I could add another sector/track.  I also
promised to make a good disk cache back then.  Well it is getting done
very slowly (I have 3 jobs and an 18 hour class load).

michael decorte
l40a@clutx.bitnet

p.s. I am very impressed in the recent flux of support from atari on
the net and promises of a 68020 box, blitter and roms but
I will still not be able to recommend the ST to people until
I find out that the roms have been fixed. (40 folder limit is at the top
of the list for me) :-(

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Date:     Fri, 13 Mar 87 12:43 EST
From:     KIMMEL%ecs.umass.edu@RELAY.CS.NET
To:       Info-Atari16@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU
Subject:  UUCODE desk accessory ordering info
X-VMS-To: CSNET%"Info-Atari16@Score.Stanford.edu"

I have written a desk accessory called UUCODE.  It allows you to UUENCODE
or UUDECODE a file in any GEM application.  In addition, it will add
'u's to the end of each data line as it encodes, to prevent truncation
of trailing spaces, and adds spaces to "short lines" as it decodes.
It also allows you to place the output files from both UUENCODE and
UUDECODE in any directory or disk you want.  Full documentation,
along with source code and the accessory, is included in the distribution
ARC file.

If you'd like a UUENCODED copy sent to you, send me mail to any of the
addresses below.

-Matt Kimmel,

BITNet:  KIMMEL@UMAECS.BITNET
ARPANet: KIMMEL%UMAECS.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA
Other:   KIMMEL@ECS.UMASS.EDU
CSNet:   KIMMEL@UMASS-ECS.CSNET   (I'm not sure if this works)

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Date: 13 Mar 87 04:18:40 GMT
From: fluke!ssc-vax!benoni@BEAVER.CS.WASHINGTON.EDU  (Charles L Ditzel)
Subject: 520 in Canada
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

Just an observation :
    On a recent trip to Vancouver, BC I dropped by a store
that was selling Atari ST (i think it was A&B Sound in the downtown
area).  They were selling a very odd creature :

    A 1040 ST Package *marked* 520 ST on the exterior.
    It came with a single sided internal drive and monitor.

    The salesmen claimed that Atari 520 ST had sold
    out and as a fix...Atari had come up with the
    above solution.

    I was fascinated.  Is this some future migration...?
    it makes sense to me.

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Date: 13 Mar 87 04:05:19 GMT
From: trwrb!wiley!bob@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Bob Amstadt)
Subject: Request for propaganda
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

I'm currently considering purchasing a "home" computer. Actually, I'm
trying to decide between an ST and an Amiga (forgive me). I've already
done some looking into the differences, but I'm afraid that I'm a little
behind the times. I was hoping that someone could answer some questions
for me:

    1. Has Atari upgraded their operating system to allow some form
       of multitasking? If not does someone else supply a multitasking
       OS? What about MINIX?

    2. Who retails the ST line in the Redondo Beach (LA) area?

    3. Who supplies what hard disks for the ST?

    4. Does X Windows run on the ST?

    5. Does GNU emacs or a micro emacs run on the ST?

Thanks for your patience.


        Bob Amstadt

        trwrb.uucp!wiley!bob
        csvax.caltech.edu!wiley!bob
        bob@wiley.uucp

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Date:     Fri, 13 Mar 87 14:52 EST
From:     KIMMEL%ecs.umass.edu@RELAY.CS.NET
To:       Info-Atari16@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU
Subject:  The new USENET groups
X-VMS-To: CSNET%"Info-Atari16@Score.Stanford.edu"

Are there any plans to start a mirrored group, perhaps similar to
the ARPANet's Unix-Sources, to distribute the postings on the new
moderated UUCP Atari ST mod.sources-type groups?  I feel like I'm
missing out, not being on Usenet.  If nobody's considered this,
I hereby present it as an idea.

-Matt Kimmel,

KIMMEL@UMAECS.BITNET
KIMMEL%UMAECS.BITNET@WISCVM.ARPA
KIMMEL@ECS.UMASS.EDU

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Date: 10 Mar 87 21:44:00 GMT
From: mcvax!unido!tub!csch@seismo.css.gov
Subject: Re: Re: RAMD_LED - (nf)
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

 As you know, I wrote that little stuff ---

 On the STs we're using here it works correctly, but I also heard about
 this problem. I'm going to fix it !!!

 OK ???

 Any suggestions and help welcome !

 Clemens Schrimpe


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Contact via:

csch@tub.uucp

from the US: ...!pyramid!tub!csch
from Europe: ...!unido!tub!csch
Bitnet:      csch@db0tui6 = tub.bitnet

tel.: +49-30-393-3574
      +49-30-332-4015

tlx.: (west-germany) + 186672 rdt d

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Date: 13 Mar 87 21:29:15 GMT
From: imagen!atari!leavens@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Alex Leavens)
Subject: Re: moving across the ocean
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

in article <258@nikhefh.UUCP>, t02@nikhefh.UUCP (Don Petcher) says:
>
>
> Presently, I live in Amsterdam, but will be moving back to the U.S. soon.
> Has anyone had experience using a European Atari in the U.S.
> (with simple step up transformers) or vice versa?  If so please let me
> know how it works.

  I believe that you're going to run into trouble with US Customs,
since I think European ST's haven't passed FCC shielding requirments.

--alex @ Atari

BIX:alexl.            GEnie: ALEXLEAVENS      AtariCorp: 408-745-2006

"How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all."

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Date: 13 Mar 87 21:40:21 GMT
From: imagen!atari!leavens@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Alex Leavens)
Subject: Re: News From Hannover Messe
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

in article <88@osupyr.UUCP>, akw@osupyr.UUCP (FarOff MicroDesigns) says:
>
> Alex, a related question...is/will Atari support/be supporting an official
> RAM upgrade for us 512K owners (and those unfortunate 256K owners somewhere
> in EurAsia with 260STs) now or anytime in the future?
>
  Don't know, but I tend to doubt it.  There are already a large number of
good inexpensive RAM upgrades available.

--alex @ Atari

BIX:alexl.            GEnie: ALEXLEAVENS      AtariCorp: 408-745-2006

"How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all."

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Date: 13 Mar 87 21:31:42 GMT
From: imagen!atari!leavens@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Alex Leavens)
Subject: Re: clearing the screen
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

in article <13873@cca.CCA.COM>, m204help@cca.CCA.COM (Keith Hedger) says:
>
>
> I'm writing a program using the MEGAMAX C system and my program is going
> to spit out lines of output to the screen. My problem is that I want to
> clear the screen (exit the desktop), have my program display its' information,
> then return to the desktop.
> How do I do this ???

  Open a window.
  Write a filled rectangle of color white to the dimensions of the window.
  (This effectively blanks the window by painting the whole screen white).
  DO your stuff.
  CLose the window.
  Delete the window handle.
  Exit.

--alex @ Atari

BIX:alexl.            GEnie: ALEXLEAVENS      AtariCorp: 408-745-2006

"How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all."

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Date: 13 Mar 87 22:17:07 GMT
From: imagen!atari!leavens@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Alex Leavens)
Subject: Re: Two questions on ST add-{o|i}ns
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

in article <8703111519.AA03527@yale-eli.YALE.ARPA>, fischer-michael@YALE.ARPA
(Michael Fischer) says:
>
> Late last summer, someone at Atari said that such a program was
> already finished, was being used in-house at Atari, and would be
> released shortly after it had been tested thoroughly.  It never
> was.

> That's the last we've heard.  We know the program exists and has
> been in daily use at Atari for over six months.  We just want to
> know when we can have it.
>

  Yep, I know.  I'd like to see it released also--Unfortunately, I'm not the
one who has a say-so in this matter.

--alex @ Atari

BIX:alexl.            GEnie: ALEXLEAVENS      AtariCorp: 408-745-2006

"How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all."

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Date: 13 Mar 87 22:49:01 GMT
From: imagen!atari!leavens@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Alex Leavens)
Subject: Re: News From Hannover Messe
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

in article <849@water.UUCP>, ljdickey@water.UUCP says:
>

> What is a "blitter", and what difference will I notice if I get one?

  A blitter is a hardware co-processor dedicated to graphics.  You'll
notice about a 5 fold increase in the performance of many graphics operations
with one installed.

> What bugs will be killed by new ROMS?

  I'll have to get a list.  I know that the underscore bug in the file
selector's been fixed--I don't know what else.

> What new features will the new ROMS have?

  Other than bug fixes and blitter support, none, as far as I know.

--alex @ Atari

BIX:alexl.            GEnie: ALEXLEAVENS      AtariCorp: 408-745-2006

"How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all."

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Date: 13 Mar 87 18:01:35 GMT
From: imagen!turner@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (D'arc Angel)
Subject: Re: Adding another Hard Drive??
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

in article <901@chinet.UUCP>, cabbie@chinet.UUCP (Richard Andrews) says:
+---------------------------------------------------------
+
+
+ I dove into a Atari hard drive last night and started with my usual play
+ tactics.  It seems that the Adaptek controller will support 2 hard disk
+ drives.  The current software does not want to see the second drive.
+ (No, I didn't really expect it to.) (:>)  Is there a patch that I can do
+ to the handler to enable the second drive?  Neil?? Alex??  It would be neat
+ to add a second drive and power supply and have more storage!
+
+
+ --
+---------------------------------------------------------
i have a BMS (Berekely MicroSystems) driver and it supports 2 drives
(in my case a 10 and a 20Mbyte). I believe the driver will run
without their board. Their number is:

(415) 530-3436

there is an extensive article on the BMS system in the current copy
of STapplications

I am in no way associated etc......

--
---------------
C'est la vie, C'est la guerre, C'est la pomme de terre
Mail:    Imagen Corp. 2650 San Tomas Expressway Santa Clara, CA 95052-8101
UUCP:    ...{decvax,ucbvax}!decwrl!imagen!turner      AT&T: (408) 986-9400

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Date: 13 Mar 87 22:26:34 GMT
From: imagen!atari!leavens@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Alex Leavens)
Subject: Re: News From Hannover Messe
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

in article <1657@trwrb.UUCP>, sansom@trwrb.UUCP (Richard Sansom) says:
>

> Hmmm.  Without the blitter upgrade, what good _are_ these ROMs?  I don't
> mean to sound negative, but it was my understanding that the ROMs you are
> talking about contain only the hooks needed by TOS to use the blitter
> (correct me if I'm wrong).  I think most of us are waiting for the GEMDOS
> bug fixes before buying a new set of ROMs (at least I am).

  The new ROMS will also incorporate bug fixes and some tightening up of
code.  They will work with either the blitter installed or not.

--alex @ Atari

BIX:alexl.            GEnie: ALEXLEAVENS      AtariCorp: 408-745-2006

"How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all."

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Date: 13 Mar 87 22:28:56 GMT
From: imagen!atari!leavens@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Alex Leavens)
Subject: Re: Blit/ROM upgrades
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

in article <1663@trwrb.UUCP>, sansom@trwrb.UUCP (Richard Sansom) says:
>
>>...  Since the Mega-ST's will have the blit chip installed...
>
> Maybe Alex@Atari can shed some lite on this for us.  Simon reports that
> Shiraz Shivji (sp) has stated that the blitter can easily be added to the
> Megas.  Does this mean that the Megas won't come with the blitter?
>
  As of right now the word was that we won't be shipping Megas until we
can ship 'em with blitters.  And we still expect to make our late 2nd
quarter target date.

--alex @ Atari

BIX:alexl.            GEnie: ALEXLEAVENS      AtariCorp: 408-745-2006

"How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all."

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