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Date:    Fri, 13 Nov 87 23:30 CST
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From:    Info-Atari16 Digest <INFO-ATARI16@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU>
Subject: Info-Atari16 Digest V87 #413

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Info-Atari16 Digest   Thursday, November 12, 1987   Volume 87 : Issue 413

This weeks Editor: Bill Westfield

Today's Topics:

                          binary and source
                            uudecode Gulam
                  Re: External Keyboard (Dec LK201)
                           ST Minix status?
                Gulam notes (alpha test v0.01.00) -old
                     Re: Worst product name award
                   re: Uniterm 2.0 / BIGformat.acc
                     Re: high density 3.5" disks
                            GULAM PROBLEMS
           Re: FreeTerm 2.0 -- Doesn't work under MagicSac?
                          OSS Pascal Wanted
                     Re: Worst product name award
                   RE: Info-Atari16 Digest V87 #411
                             What group?
                        Re: External Keyboard

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Date:     Wed 11 Nov 1987 16:24 CDT
From: <UUCJEFF%ECNCDC.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject:   binary and source
To: <Info-Atari16@score.stanford.edu>

How does one subscribe to the binary and source group for the Atari ST?
    Jeff Beer, UUCJEFF@ECNCDC

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Date: 11 Nov 87 22:17:35 GMT
From: zen!mercutio.berkeley.edu!c164-2ao@cad.Berkeley.EDU  (Duy Le)
Subject: uudecode Gulam
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

I received gulam in three pieces today.  Do I need to concatenate these
three uuencoded files and then uudecode the concatenated file?
Thanks



Duy

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Date: 11 Nov 87 23:30:50 GMT
From: decvax!minow@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Martin Minow)
Subject: Re: External Keyboard (Dec LK201)
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

My apologies for posting this without summarizing the original article.
However, as it refers to a safety issue, I feel the completeness is
appropriate.  In the attached article, Farrell Woods points out that the
(Dec) LK201 keyboard warns the user against using an unapproved cable.
Because he refers to "really cheap cables", the reader may incorrectly
decide that expensive cables would work.  While the LK201 cable looks
like a standard modular phone cable, it is build using significantly
heavier gauge wire -- as it carries the power needed by the keyboard.
Ordinary LK201 usage exceeds the rated capacity of standard modular phone
cables.  You can order replacement cables from Dec Direct.

Martin Minow
decvax!minow
The above does not represent the position of Digital Equipment Corporation.

In article <105100029@datacube> ftw@datacube.UUCP writes:
>
>Your comments prompted me to look at the bottom of the LK-201 keyboard
>I'm typing on right now.  Indeed, it does have a warning about using only
>"approved" cables for keyboard attachment, otherwise, "excessive overheating
>may result in abnormal conditions.".  Thanks for pointing that out.
>I can picture a really cheap cable catching fire if the +5 to the keybaord
>gets shorted for some weird reason.
>
>As for number of wires, I'm glad I said _maybe_, since I don't have a 520
>to take apart, old or new. ;-)
>
>
>                Farrell T. Woods
>
>Datacube Inc. Systems / Software Group    4 Dearborn Rd. Peabody, Ma 01960
>VOICE:    617-535-6644;    FAX: (617) 535-5643;  TWX: (710) 347-0125
>INTERNET: ftw@datacube.COM
>UUCP: {rutgers, ihnp4, mirror}!datacube!ftw

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Date: 11 Nov 87 23:48:11 GMT
From: sandra@cs.utah.edu  (Sandra J Loosemore)
Subject: ST Minix status?
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

A couple of us here at Utah have been wondering what ever happened to
the port of Minix to the Atari ST.  Anybody out there know the current
status of this project?

-Sandra Loosemore
sandra@cs.utah.edu (sandra@utah-cs.uucp)

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 87 12:29:31 EST
From: pyrdc!gmu90x!wmcs!nh!csrobe@uunet.UU.NET (Chip Roberson)
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
Subject: Gulam notes (alpha test v0.01.00) -old

A couple of comments and questions about Gulam.

1)  There is a command called 'sx' that is documented by referring you to
a command called 'rx', but rx doesn't exist.  Can someone tell me what these
commands do?

2)  From ue (emacs) when you type a ~K is 'temporarily' pops you into Gulam
and your editing buffers are not FREED.  The manual says to try this but
doesn't say how to return to emacs.  So far I only tried running emacs
then ~x~b to the buffer i was editing.  Is there a more direct way to return
to your editing after doing a ~z  (oops that was supposed to be a ~z not a
~k up there, sorry).

3)  Finally, in ue, if you do several delete-backward-words (M-BS) then do
a yank (~Y) your deletes will be restored in reverse order.  SO the line,
Delete this line backwards.
becomes
backwards. line this Delete
when you restore.

*~*~*~*~*~*

How does one get to atari-sources to find out what is there and to ultimately
upload or download (correct terminology?) something to/from them or is it
only a part of netnews.

thanks,
-chip
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Chip Roberson                ARPANET:  csrobe@icase.arpa
1105 London Company Way      BITNET:   $csrobe@wmmvs.bitnet
Williamsburg, VA 23185       UUCP:     ...!uunet!pyrdc!gmu90x!wmcs!csrobe
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*(*please note change in UUCP address      ~~~~~~~~~~~  seismo is gone*)*

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Date: 12 Nov 87 02:53:07 GMT
From: nosc!humu!uhccux!cm450s02@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu  (jeff t. segawa)
Subject: Re: Worst product name award
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

In article <618@applix.UUCP> scott@applix.UUCP (Scott Evernden) writes:
>Moses PromiseLAN        ?   ???

Hmmm. That IS pretty bad. I thought Lotus had the worst name with
"Modern Jazz". After Symphony and Jazz, I can't help but wonder what
the next product will be called. Lotus Heavy Metal, perhaps? Why no one
at Lotus ever thought of calling the new product "4-5-6" is beyond me.

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Date: 10 Nov 87 18:00:10 GMT
From: decvax!linus!philabs!sbcs!lean@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Lean L. Loh)
Subject: re: Uniterm 2.0 / BIGformat.acc
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

  As was mentioned in a previous posting, Uniterm 2.0 is NOT out yet,
but will be very very soon.  So you panicky guys did not missed any
postings.

   Uniterm 2.0BETA version can be obtained from the server at Houston,
although I'm not sure if it's supposed to be there.  Since the official
version 2.0  will be out very soon now, I think we should just wait.

  As i mentioned in my posting of BIGformat.acc, it worked fine for me
on my monochrome although the read/writes are slower.  I've used it
for about 2 months now, mostly for storing documents and misc stuff.
If it caused trouble for anyone, I hereby apologize. I posted it
because I got quite a number of request from fellow-netters.

    Anyone out there using publishing partner together with Beckemeyers'
C-SHell or GULAM?  Please email me. Thanks
--
CSNET: lean@sbcs.csnet
ARPA: lean%suny-sb.csnet@csnet-relay.arpa
UUCP: {allegra, hocsd, philabs, ogcvax}!sbcs!lean

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Date: 11 Nov 87 21:04:48 GMT
From: pepper!cmcmanis@sun.com  (Chuck McManis)
Subject: Re: high density 3.5" disks
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

The scoop on the high density drives is that they use a data clock that
is twice as fast as the low density drives. On Amiga/Atari/PC-XT type
5.25 and 3.5 inch disks this clock runs at 250Khz, on the AT and PS/2
this clock runs at 500Khz. Exactly double the speed, means you can fit
twice as many sectors on a track and double your storage (720K -> 1440K).
The standard Western Digital minifloppy only controllers will not read
or write this format. The WD1793 and family of dual 8"/5.25" controllers
will given they are supplied with the proper clock. Also, when you double
the bit rate you cram more bits in the same space so your drive mechanism
has to be able to resolve a higher number of flux changes/inch (fci) and
the diskette has to be capable of retaining those flux changes faithfully.
So all you need are a new controller, drive, and diskettes and you're all
set. No I don't if anyone is planning on offering them for the above
mentioned computers (except the AT and PS/2 of course).


--Chuck McManis
uucp: {anywhere}!sun!cmcmanis   BIX: cmcmanis  ARPAnet: cmcmanis@sun.com
These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you.

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Date: 11 Nov 87 21:17:25 GMT
From: ihnp4!homxb!homxc!jdn@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (J.NAGY)
Subject: GULAM PROBLEMS
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

Has anyone succesfully uudecoded the recent GULAM postings?
I found that all my byte counts were initially 2 bytes larger
than those posted, pesumably due to two extra blank lines at the
end of each file.  I deleted these extraneous blank lines, and all
the byte counts matched.  But when I try to to uudecode them, I
get the message "Short file", and indeed, my gulam.arc is only
22284 bytes. [My files are correctly named gulam.uaa, etc.]

Any suggestions?



Jonathan Nagy
{ihnp4|allegra|harvard}!homxc!jdn
(201) 615-4349

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Date: 12 Nov 87 05:12:30 GMT
From: jcc@ngp.utexas.edu  (J. Chris Cooley)
Subject: Re: FreeTerm 2.0 -- Doesn't work under MagicSac?
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

In article <2137@brspyr1.BRS.Com>, tim@brspyr1.BRS.Com (Tim Northrup) writes:
>
> FreeTerm 2.0 which was recently posted to the MacIntosh binaries group
> doesn't appear to work using the MagicSac on the Atari ST.  This seems
> strange seeing as the Data Pacific folks tout FreeTerm 1.8 as *the*
> terminal package to use with the Sac.
>
> Does FreeTerm 2.0 work with version 4.5x of the MagicSac driver?
> (I am using 4.36 -- latest from CompuServe)

Isn't MagicSac that thing that needs Apple ROMs to operate?

Where'd you get your ROMs?

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Date: 11 Nov 87 22:43:24 GMT
From: dalcs!aucs!870646c@uunet.uu.net  (comer)
Subject: OSS Pascal Wanted
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

Hi all, I am in the need of a copy of OSS's Personal Pascal. If there is
anyone out there that has this product and is not using it, could you
please drop a message my way with you phone number, or address that I
could get it from you.
later
Barry

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Date: 12 Nov 87 06:14:20 GMT
From: zen!sim.Berkeley.EDU!pchris@cad.Berkeley.EDU  (Chris Perleberg)
Subject: Re: Worst product name award
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

In article <1107@uhccux.UUCP> cm450s02@uhccux.UUCP (jeff t. segawa) writes:
>In article <618@applix.UUCP> scott@applix.UUCP (Scott Evernden) writes:
>>Moses PromiseLAN        ?   ???
>
>Hmmm. That IS pretty bad. I thought Lotus had the worst name with
>"Modern Jazz". After Symphony and Jazz, I can't help but wonder what
>the next product will be called. Lotus Heavy Metal, perhaps? Why no one
>at Lotus ever thought of calling the new product "4-5-6" is beyond me.

Maybe not such a bad name after all.  It'll be 40 years before we see
that "Promised LAN" ;-)

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 87 09:35 EDT
From: NARESH SODHA <CS117151%YUSol.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject: RE: Info-Atari16 Digest V87 #411
To: Info-Atari16@score.stanford.edu
X-Vms-To: IN%"Info-Atari16@Score.Stanford.edu"



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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 87  14:30:15 EST
From: Flash%UMass.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu
Subject: What group?
To: INFO-ATARI16@score.stanford.edu
In-Reply-To: atari st <871111125620.0001BFBB.AAAI.MA@Mars.UCC.UMass.EDU>

What group are you talking about? Info-Atari16?

Rick

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Date: 12 Nov 87 01:33:14 GMT
From: imagen!atari!portal!cup.portal.com!ANKH@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Re: External Keyboard
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

Sorry, Mr Glasser...but the new 520's *do* have the mouse joystick ports
in the front. They also have a drive built in. I know, because I bought
one of these for my daughter in July. Also, there is no clumsy transformer
 on your desktop. It is a lot different than my 520, which is like yours...
ports on the side. etc,etc.

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