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Info-Atari16 Digest   Monday, January 11, 1988   Volume 88 : Issue 11

This weeks Editor: Bill Westfield

Today's Topics:

                          PrintMaster Icons
                 Re: Double-Click Formatter Question
                  Re: VCR -> Atari ST color monitor
                          Re: Multiuser BBS
                   graphic file interchange format
                  Re: Multi-tasking? A nightmare...
                         INTERRUPT PROCESSING
                   Re: cartridge slot kludge boards
                      520ST Jittery Monitor Woes
                 Re: graphic file interchange format
                 Re: graphic file interchange format
                           40 folder limit
              Zoomracks (i.e. Hypercard's predecessor?)
                 Re: graphic file interchange format
                             INFORMATION

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Date: 31 Dec 87 00:49:23 GMT
From: clyde!watmath!dalcs!silvert@rutgers.edu  (Bill Silvert)
Subject: PrintMaster Icons
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

It is a long time since a nice set of PrintMaster icons was posted to
this group.  They are handy not only for PM use, but with a program by
Sol Guber (shareware) you can convert them to Degas format for use with
Publishing Partner, etc.

I am looking for a tool to manage PM libraries.  I would like to be able
to read through a library and copy selected icons to a custom library.
You can do this with PM itself, but the process is cumbersome.  Does
anyone have such a beast, or some related code that will help?  What is
the format of the library entries anyway?

Are there any more PD libraries lurking out there?  A large set was
recently posted to a BBS that I run (almost 300 K!), but I spotted
a couple of proprietary libraries in it and had to pull it off.  It is a
real pain trying to figure out what is and isn't PD!

If there is interest, and if I can figure out what is PD in the arc
file, I will post some of the libraries.  Any information or any files
and PM utilities that anyone can post or send would be welcome.

By the way, the file includes a program that is supposed to dump an icon
library to the printer.  It doesn't seem to work well, but the output
on my SMM804 makes me think it may work on a true Epson.  If you want to
try it, send mail to ...!dalcs!biomel (if you send it to this address I
won't send it -- You have to use the correct address!).
--
Bill Silvert, Modelling/Statistics Group, Biological Sciences Branch
Bedford Institute of Oceanography, Dartmouth, NS, Canada B2Y 4A2
    UUCP: ...!{uunet,utai,watmath}!dalcs!biomel!bill
    CDN or BITNET: biomel@cs.dal.cdn

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Date: 31 Dec 87 04:23:10 GMT
From: nuchat!uhnix1!uhnix2!uace0@uunet.uu.net  (Michael B. Vederman)
Subject: Re: Double-Click Formatter Question
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

Rick Flashman asks:  Are the authors of DC Format n the Net.  There is a bug.

We are on the net.
We had this reported o us by Simon Poole a while back.  This was fixed, but
what version are you running?  One of the Oold versions didn't work right.
The latest posted version is either 2.32 or 2.31 I belive.
Check the version and let us know.

BTW - Look for a desk acces@sory version very soon, which has background
    formatting.  And with our product to download in the background, to
    be sold by Antic (:-) a little plug), I can now download, word
    process, and format at the same time.  I believe this isn't bad for
    a non-multqitasking environment.  Was't that the ultimate test?

- Mike
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Date: 30 Dec 87 15:24:05 GMT
From: clyde!burl!codas!mtune!mtgzz!drutx!jhs@rutgers.edu  (ShoreJ)
Subject: Re: VCR -> Atari ST color monitor
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

in article <3257@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu>, engst@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu
(Adam C. Engst) says:
>
> I'm curious, does anyone know of a

No, but I have heard of a

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Date: 31 Dec 87 13:40:37 GMT
From: singer@XN.LL.MIT.EDU  (Matthew R. Singer)
Subject: Re: Multiuser BBS
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

Kindy inform me as to what is so "abrasive" about FoReM ST.

Perhaps you find it so because you are unfamilar with it.  Please
send me your name and address so I can send you a users manual.


Matt Singer

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Date: 31 Dec 87 14:11:22 GMT
From: sgi!daisy!turner@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (D'arc Angel)
Subject: graphic file interchange format
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

Is there a simgle format or at least a conversion program that will
let me use a picture file generated on a pc on a mac or atari.st or
any other permutattion of machines ????

--
Laissez les bons temps rouler                     -  Queen Ida
...{decwrl|ucbvax}!imagen!atari!daisy!turner (James M. Turner)
Daisy Systems, 700 E. Middlefield Rd, P.O. Box 7006,
Mountain View CA 94039-7006.                          (415)960-0123

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Date: 31 Dec 87 14:19:49 GMT
From: lakesys!steven@csd1.milw.wisc.edu  (Steven Goodman)
Subject: Re: Multi-tasking? A nightmare...
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

In article <2323@ihuxy.ATT.COM> rnss@ihuxy.UUCP (Ron Schreiner) writes:
>Well this subject line get my vote for the "longest-most-usless" aword
>of 87.  If you are not clever enough to take advantage of multi-tasking
>then don't use it, and stop telling everyone "who needs it ? "
>
>
>--
>Ron Schreiner   AT&T Bell Labs  ...ihnp4!ihuxy!rnss

AGREED!  I have been reading this board on and off for some time now.  This
due to many users on my system whom use st's.  Multi-tasking requires very
little "cleverness" and the OS often does the work for you.  It doesn't take
long to see the advantages and use them.  For me, if I had to return to a
single tasking enviorment it would be like some of you having to return to
a 40 column screen (bleech).  Your 68000 is mot likely barely used.  Why
not give it abit extra in the way of jobs?  Multi-tasking makes you far more
productive.  Useless award - this is right.  I would guess that the most
likely feature to be seen on all future machines will be OS's that
multitask.   Why the heck should you have to stop working just because your
OS can't "talk and chew gum" at the same time?


--
Steven Goodman                               |
Lake Systems   Milwaukee, Wisconsin          |      "A smart man talks,
1 (414) 744-7033                             |       a wise man listens"
UUCP:  {ihnp4,uwvax}!uwmcsd1!lakesys!steven  |

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Date: 30 Dec 87 20:19:09 GMT
From: mtune!mtgzz!mtuxo!homxb!homxc!jdn@rutgers.edu  (J.NAGY)
Subject: INTERRUPT PROCESSING
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

How do you disable and enable interrupts from
1. The keyboard?
2. The SIO port?

In the documentation at my disposal (Mark Williams C and Abacus)
I can find the following table under Jdisint:

    Interrupt #        event
        0        I/O port bit 0
        1        I/O prot bit 1
        2        I/O port bit 2
        3        I/O port bit 3
        4        Timer D
        5        Timer C
        6        I/O port bit 4
        7        I/O port bit 5
        8        Timer B
        9        sender error
        10        sender buffer empty
        11        receive error
        12        receive buffer full
        13        Timer A
        14        I/O port bit 6
        15        I/O port bit 7

Half of these are self explanatory, but the other half requires
a mapping to atari st hardware events.  Would someone be kind
enough to inform me what events are represented by I/O port bits 0-7 in
the atari 1040 ST? I presume that one of these represents a
keyboard interrupt and another an SIO interrupt; otherwise
I really need help!

Thanks,

Jonathan Nagy
{ihnp4|allegra|mtune}!homxc!jdn
(201) 615-4349

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Date: 31 Dec 87 13:54:09 GMT
From: ulysses!mhuxt!mhuxu!cbz@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Craig B. Ziemer)
Subject: Re: cartridge slot kludge boards
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

In article <1345@pixar.UUCP>, mgr@pixar.UUCP (Michael Griffin Russell) writes:
> Anyone out there know a company that sells a prototype
> board for the ST cartridge slot.  Any info on physically
> plugging into the cartridge slot would be appreciated.

I recently built a battery-backed real-time clock and a four
channel A/D converter to plug into my cartridge port. I bought
the board from,

                       Douglas Electronics
                       718 Marina Blvd.
                       San Leadro, CA 94577
                       (415) 483-8770

The board fits perfectly into the cartridge slot.  It has holes
spaced at 0.10 inches, 20 rows by 30 columns, with 8 rows dedi-
cated for power and ground buses.  The part number is 33-DE-40,
costs $10.00, they'll ship it however you want, and they accept
MC and VISA.  I have nothing to do with this outfit other than
being a satisfied customer.

Craig Z. at AT&T
mhuxu!cbz

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Date: 31 Dec 87 15:10:40 GMT
From: ulysses!mhuxt!mhuxu!cbz@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Craig B. Ziemer)
Subject: 520ST Jittery Monitor Woes
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu


I consider this problem to be minor, but I thought I'd see if anyone
has had a similar experience.  After my computer (520 ST) has been
on for 1 to 1.5 hours, the *low resolution* display begins to get
jittery.  It starts out very mild (one or two scan lines misplaced
a little) and then regresses to the point that I can hardly stand
to look at it.  If I switch to medium resolution, the problem
disappears.  Or, if I turn the computer off for a minute (just the
computer, not the monitor or drive) then turn it back on, the
display will be normal again for a while.  Then the whole sequence
repeats.  It's been this way for a long, long time, but I didn't care
too much because I almost always use medium resolution (the problem
never occurs in this mode).  I just recently acquired some neat
(low resolution mode) games so now it's starting to annoy me. Although
the computer is properly ventilated, my guess is that something is
overheating.  Any other ideas??????

Craig Z. at AT&T
mhuxu!cbz

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Date: 1 Jan 88 01:16:48 GMT
From: lakesys!martin@csd1.milw.wisc.edu  (Martin Wiedmeyer)
Subject: Re: graphic file interchange format
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

After seeing Rich's post, I am reminded of David Mumper's fine graphics
conversion and compression utility. I heartily reccommend Tiny in addition
to PicSwitch.


    Marty
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|    Martin Wiedmeyer - Lake Systems, Milwaukee, WI                        |
|       UUCP: {ihnp4,uwvax}!uwmcsd1!lakesys!martin                            |
|       Disclaimer: "I take the heat for my own (mis)statements!"             |

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Date: 1 Jan 88 00:33:09 GMT
From: lakesys!martin@csd1.milw.wisc.edu  (Martin Wiedmeyer)
Subject: Re: graphic file interchange format
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

I have been using a handy utility called PicSwitch to convert Mac, Amiga and
Mono ST pictures (Degas, NeoChrome) to be viewable on my RGB, It's Shareware,
I believe, so I'd be happy to send you a copy if you'd like.

        Marty
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|    Martin Wiedmeyer - Lake Systems, Milwaukee, WI                        |
|       UUCP: {ihnp4,uwvax}!uwmcsd1!lakesys!martin                            |
|       Disclaimer: "I take the heat for my own (mis)statements!"             |

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Date: 31 Dec 87 17:26:32 GMT
From: sabre!gamma!pyuxp!pyuxe!crc6@faline.bellcore.com  (C. Colbert)
Subject: 40 folder limit
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

See Atari Explorer Spring 87 (Vol 7 no. 2) page 27

"Mike Schmall, Atari system programmer involved in upgrading the ST
operating system, talked about how the new OS revision will affect Mega
system performance:... In addition, we've made some changes that
overcome natural limitaions of the original OS, such as the 40-folder
limit."

They also mention an upgrade to existing machines, adding blitters and
new roms.

Charles Colbert

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Date: 1 Jan 88 01:31:53 GMT
From: mnetor!utgpu!parora@uunet.uu.net  (Pavneet Arora)
Subject: Zoomracks (i.e. Hypercard's predecessor?)
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu


I was just reading this quarter's STart magazine (Wint87), and came across an
article on Zoomracks - an ST product which sounds a lot like Hypercard for the
Mac.  One major difference being that Zoomracks has been around for 3 years.

The article is interesting.  If anyone has used the product, perhaps they
can post their views.

Why hasn't this product come to light earlier?   One thing I did notice was
that the screens used in this article gave a definite edge to Hypercard
since there were beautiful graphics mixed with text.  Is this a shortcoming
of Zoomracks?

By the way the author of Zoomracks is Paul Heckel - the same person who
developed the Craig Language Translator and wrote "The Elements of
Friendly Software Design" (This is from the article).

Pavneet Arora
parora@utgpu

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Date: 1 Jan 88 20:06:22 GMT
From: lakesys!martin@csd1.milw.wisc.edu  (Martin Wiedmeyer)
Subject: Re: graphic file interchange format
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

I happen to have the issue of Computer Shopper right here which has the
Universal Graphics Interchange cover article. It is the October '87 issue.

    Marty
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|    Martin Wiedmeyer - Lake Systems, Milwaukee, WI                        |
|       UUCP: {ihnp4,uwvax}!uwmcsd1!lakesys!martin                            |
|       Disclaimer: "I take the heat for my own (mis)statements!"             |

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Mail-From: BILLW created at  4-Jan-88 12:15:39
Date:         Sun, 03 Jan 88 22:07:41 IST
From: RON LEOR <HEART01%TAUNIVM.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu>
Subject:      INFORMATION
To: BILL WESTFIELD <BILLW@score.stanford.edu>
ReSent-To: info-atari16@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU
ReSent-From: BILLW at SCORE.STANFORD.EDU
ReSent-Date:  4 Jan 1988

Dear sir.
    I  own an Atari 1040ST and I would like to try using  it  for
image  processing in cardiology.  I need a video digitizer  which
will  be  able to digitize stop-frame video  tape  pictures  (not
video  camera),  and be compatible with the video standards  PAL,
NTSC,  SECAM, colors and/or black and white. Apart from obtaining
the  pictures on the monitor screen,  I am interested in  getting
numeric  picture  files  of  8  bits  for  each  pixel.  I  would
appreciate if you will be able to find out for me information  on
the above subject, be it available commercial devices, electronic
kits,  tested circuits in data sheet form or BITNET addresses  of
ST users successfully employing such digitizers.
   I am looking forward to your answer.

                     Sincerely yours

                     Dr. Ron Leor,
                     The Heart Institute,
                     Sheba Hospital, Tel Hashomer,
                     Tel Avive, ISRAEL.

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