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Info-Atari16 Digest   Thursday, June 30, 1988   Volume 88 : Issue 298

This weeks Editor: Bill Westfield

Today's Topics:

                      Re: UUCP for the Atari ST
                       Re: mega woes, continued
                   disk drive data disaster, part 2
                      Re: The archive at lakesys
           Wall Street Wizard (the stock market simulation)
                              Re: minix
                            Re: Assembler
                      Re: C compilers on the ST
                    Re: Mono shakes/Uniterm blues
                                 how
                Turning off vertical blank interrupts
                           Re: Midi Mega's
                 Re: disk drive data disaster, part 2

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Date: 25 Jun 88 06:47:35 GMT
From: marque!gryphon!lakesys!mark@csd1.milw.wisc.edu  (Mark Storin)
Subject: Re: UUCP for the Atari ST
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

In article <43921@felix.UUCP> preston@felix.UUCP (Preston Bannister) writes:
>
>Does a UUCP equivalent for the Atari ST exist?
>
    Yes, UUPC has been ported to the ST. Source is available from the
lakesys netlib server  (the index was just posted yesterday).


--
Mark A. Storin
Lake Systems, Milw., WI
UUCP:  ,ihnp4,uwvax-!uwmcsd1!lakesys!mark

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Date: 24 Jun 88 16:01:28 GMT
From: mcvax!unido!tub!tmpmbx!netmbx!hase@uunet.uu.net  (Hartmut Semken)
Subject: Re: mega woes, continued
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

In article <[gw.scri.fsu.edu].B16E2EA0.00914A12.PETCHER> PETCHER@FSU.BITNET
 writes:
>Now that I have recieved my replacement mega2 and have been working with it for
>awhile, I have discovered that it also has problems.  For one, my disk drive
>has the famed media change problem - whenever I take out a write enabled disk
>and replace it with a second write enabled disk, the disk drive doesn't
>recognize the media change!  This was reported previously on the net to be a
Maybe the drive has a "media changed" output on Pin 2. A Diode (4148) from Pin
2 to the write-protected pin could fix it (?).
>problem of a certain batch of Chinon drives used by third party vendors, but I
>did not expect to find it in the 'off-the-shelf' mega! As it turns out, I may
>also have other problems with the blitter (see, my letter on Uniterm vs. the
>blitter).  Although the final analysis is not yet in, I have certainly had some
Hm, this seems to be a well known bug in the Bitter. Here in Germany we
have a little Program around, fixing the problem. Maybe I'll post it
here. I've never tried it, because I have no Blitter; in fact, I have
one but do not know how to connect it to my 520 ST+ (I get no cirurit
drawings of the Mega...).
>newer, the main point is this:
>
>           *** flame on ***
>
>IF ATARI IS NOT ABLE TO PRODUCE STABLE HARDWARE, NO MATTER HOW THEY MARKET
>THEIR EQUIPMENT THEY WILL NEVER MAKE IT IN THE BUSINESS MARKET.
>
>           *** flame off ***
Do not flame Atari for the unstable Blitter. This is a problem, the
semiconductor company (General Instruments?) has (the Blitter seems to
be too complicated for their machines 8-).
But *flame* *them* for using cheap sockets and circurit boards (and
noisy fans). Flame them for their circurit design (unbuffered outputs of
the soundchip to Centronics).
No, wait!!
Stop flaming them!
They could start making the hardware more stable; this would put me out
of buisiness (I'm fixing "broken" STs...8-)
>Don't get me wrong.  I do like my Atari, and intend to do what it takes to get
>a workable system.  It is still the best micro on the market for my purposes
Me too. I like it, but some day the fixes will be more expensive than
another ("real") machine.
>Perhaps I am the victim of a wild fluctuation of statistics that occurred in
>the vicinity of Tallahassee and my experience is far from usual.  I certainly
>hope so for Atari's sake.
Perhaps You are a victim of temperature. The power supply of the mega
seems to be the same as the one of the SH205.
I got rid of it (and built one myself) and my harddisk problems were
gone!

hase
--
Hartmut Semken, Lupsteiner Weg 67, 1000 Berlin 37 hase@netmbx.UUCP
High on a rocky promontory sat an Electric Monk on a bored horse. (D. Adams)

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Date: 23 Jun 88 23:01:51 GMT
From: umbc3!cbw1!@umd5.umd.edu  (Jonathan S. Drukman)
Subject: disk drive data disaster, part 2
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

You may or may not recall that I was having problems with frequent
and inexplicable data errors on my SF 314 floppy.  I received many
letters, and thanks to all who wrote.  The mail I received indicated
that basically _anything_ could be the problem - the disk controller
chip, the head alignment, dirty heads, bad disks...  And the answer
is - I have absolutely no idea what.  The drive magically fixed itself
the very day I planned to take it into a store for head alignment.
This was over a week ago and it hasn't even hiccuped since.  All the
disks that were "unformattable" and "completely damaged" are now
perfect.  I have thrown out most of the really troublesome ones.  My
advice to those with this problem is the following: pick the drive up,
shout in a loud voice: "I'm going to take my drive to the store now for
alignment.  Oops, looks like I won't make it in time." and slam it back
down on the desk with a gentle yet firm touch.  It worked for me.

-----------
Jon Drukman                      University`of Massachusetts
BITNET: jsd@umass                ARPANET:"Naked man calm own, I'll give you
 some strawberry cake." - sugarcubes

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Date: 24 Jun 88 20:44:42 GMT
From: att!chinet!mcdchg!clyde!watmath!mks!wheels@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Gerry
 Wheeler)
Subject: Re: The archive at lakesys
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

In article <766@lakesys.UUCP>, martin@lakesys.UUCP (Martin Wiedmeyer) writes:
> For those who are wondering, here's the latest index from netlib@lakesys:
> flip_026c/part.uaa    880614    Use the other side of a SS disk

I've seen references to this a couple of times, but I don't understand
what it's about.  You can't insert a 3.5" diskette in upside down.  (Can
you?) Anybody using this? What does it do?

--
     Gerry Wheeler                           Phone: (519)884-2251
Mortice Kern Systems Inc.               UUCP: uunet!watmath!mks!wheels
   35 King St. North                             BIX: join mks
Waterloo, Ontario  N2J 2W9                  CompuServe: 73260,1043

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Date: 24 Jun 88 22:20:09 GMT
From:
 att!chinet!mcdchg!clyde!watmath!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!me!ecf!forbesr@uc
bvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Robert James Forbes)
Subject: Wall Street Wizard (the stock market simulation)
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

This is an unabashed advertisement for a new stock market simulation
called `WALL STREET WIZARD' available for the ST.  This is being privately
distributed (for now) so I thought I'd let you know.  An abbreviated version
of the game has just appeared in the latest issue of STart magazine.

Wall Street Wizard is a stock market misulation that runs on any ST (but you
need a colour monitor).  The object of Wall Street Wizard is to begin with
$10 000 and turn that into a million dollars in a year.  Your job is
to buy and sell (the way your capitalist friends do).  The computer
informs you of occasional market flurries and generally does its best
to reproduce the market at its wildest.  Industry insiders may try to
sway your buying decisions but a little discernment is required.
You don't have to go it alone -- three stockbrokers (Wildeyed Willy,
Cautious Charlie and Nervous Norman) can be consulted with a click
and a little cash.  The Market index shows you how well each company
is performing; well, how it has performed so far -- how it will
perform is the question, isn't it?

So far, I'm told (by its creator) that Wall Street Wizard is getting
rave reviews from around the world.  One stock broker wrote to find
out how he could buy stock -- in the game!  Well, you can't yet.  But
you can get the full version of the game, complete with margin
trading, company financial reports and three levels of play.

For ordering information, contact Tony Lovell, Lovell Marketing, 699
Eglinton Ave. West, Suite 207, Toronto, Ontario M5N 1C6, Canada.
Or, heck, send your name to me.  I'll pass it on to Tony.

It seems to me that you may learn how to invest all that money that
you make at your job a lot more wisely after playing a few rounds
of Wall Street Wizard.  And, in the meantime you won't lose your
proverbial ...

_____________________________
Bob Forbes
Dept. of EE, University of Toronto

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Date: 24 Jun 88 20:54:52 GMT
From: oodis01!uplherc!sp7040!jsp@tis.llnl.gov  (John Peters)
Subject: Re: minix
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

In article <1737@cosmo.UUCP>, hase@cosmo.UUCP (Juergen Seeger) writes:
> I'v installed Tanenbaum's MINIX on an Atari ST.

How did you get it??????  Has Prentis Hall released it??????
Better yet how can I get it???????

                    --  Johnnie  --

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Date: 24 Jun 88 20:46:40 GMT
From: oodis01!uplherc!sp7040!jsp@tis.llnl.gov  (John Peters)
Subject: Re: Assembler
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

In article <1946@netmbx.UUCP>, fischer@netmbx.UUCP (Axel Fischer) writes:
> Recently I looked for a good assembler package for the Atari ST but I couldn't
> deceide which one I should buy.
>
> Could any please give me some advise and maybe a little comparision what they
> perform and cost ?
>

    I would like to make a request for some information about the
assembler that is included with the MWC package.  I use MWC alot and would
like to try some assembly.  Is this much like the UNIX assembler.  Is there
a macro package like M4 available for it.  I have quite a bit of samplers
for a UNIX machine with a MC680X0 chip.  It has always helped me to be
able to look directly at samples while trying new stuff.  (Yes I realize
all hooks to the O.S. will be vastly different.  When all else fails
link in libc.a and use the standard functions.

                    --  Johnnie  --

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Date: 24 Jun 88 20:36:04 GMT
From: oodis01!uplherc!sp7040!jsp@tis.llnl.gov  (John Peters)
Subject: Re: C compilers on the ST
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

In article <3130@crash.cts.com>, sreeb@pnet01.cts.com (Ed Beers) writes:
> While Alcyon seems to work ( I got it with my developers kit in addition to
> MWC ), it lacks a source level debugger.  I couldn't live without Csd now.
> Csd seems to work very well.  The only bug I have encountered is that integers
> are displayed as if they were unsigned integers.  It has cut my debugging time
> in half.
>

    I have to agree with this comment.  Alcyon worked (with some problems)
so I tried MWC.  The first version I fought often with.  Version 2 I thought
was a breeze to use.  With the release of 3.0 and CSD, all I can say is WOW!!!
I found bugs in the first day I had been looking at for weeks.

    I did find one thing I think is a bug though, #line preprocessor
statements confuse it.

    As for some of the others, I tried Lattic (Slow as snails) and
anything that requires overlays on a 68000 system can forget it.  A lot
of the others I have not tried because either they were not around when I
was looking or there were horror stories about there use.

                --  Johnnie  --

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Date: 25 Jun 88 13:20:49 GMT
From: mcvax!philmds!leo@uunet.uu.net  (Leo de Wit)
Subject: Re: Mono shakes/Uniterm blues
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

Just joking...

In article <6738@cup.portal.com> Alice_Helen_Amore@cup.portal.com writes:
>My monochrome developed the shakes when I moved my system, too.  I discovered
>that the display shook only when the refrigerator motor was cranking.  Move
                                      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>your system to an isolated outlet and see if that helps.
>Alice Amore

My hard disk drive uses a cooling fan, but you won't certainly get a
overheating problem 8-). Or maybe you're aiming for supra conduction ?

    Leo (Shake it, baby; Keep it cool, man.)

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Date:     Sun, 26 Jun 88 02:59:55 PDT
From: SAVIN%CALSTATE.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU  (WHOO YA)
Subject:  how
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

Subscribe
How do I subscribe to info-atari16 digest??

John Kawakami  Using a friend's account.

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Date: 26 Jun 88 02:56:46 GMT
From: att!chinet!saj@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Stephen Jacobs)
Subject: Turning off vertical blank interrupts
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

A while ago I asked what would happen if I set the interrupt level of an ST
high enough to disable the vertical blank interrupt.  The responses were
not unanymous, but I got the idea that there should be about a 5% speed
increase, against the possibility of crashing GEM.  I just tried it in a
computation-intensive GEM application.  The good news is no crash.  The bad
news is only maybe a 1% speed-up.  By the way: I tested that the vbl interrupt
was really disabled by flipping the switch that controls whether my Thomson
Ultrascan monitor is claiming to be color or mono: monitor change is detected
in the vbl routine.

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Date: 25 Jun 88 21:31:37 GMT
From: tektronix!reed!percival!actor@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Clif Swinford)
Subject: Re: Midi Mega's
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

In article <335@bdt.UUCP> david@bdt.UUCP (David Beckemeyer) writes:
>
>Oh, and today I got a call from Sig Hartmann at Atari, <fill in today's
>title here> telling me that I'm "no longer allowed to make negative statements
>on USENET" and that he "is my sole contact for Atari related communications".

If this outrageous and illegal crap is true (giving you a chance to back
out of it, Sig!) then Atari, who have had my wholehearted support for
eight years now, have just lost it.

Keep in mind that you (Atari) have relied on word-of-mouth to sell your
ST's, and my mouth has been as wordy as any. But I and hundreds of others
will be spreading poison on your reputation (the poison you apply yourself)
if ANY action is taken against Mr. Beckemeyer or BDT.

In the United States we are guaranteed the freedom to express our opinions.
If the Government were to ask someone what you're asking Beckemeyer it would
be a Federal crime. As it is, it is deeply deplorable and scummy.

Yes, David is a pain in the ass. Tough. Everyone has critics, and those
critics have a right to hold and express opinions. Unless you can find
something illegal in his statements, I recommend that you shut up and
behave like adults.

--
     Clif Swinford
"This is not a dress rehearsal. It's a f***ing audition!"
                  ..!tektronix!reed!percival!actor                        fnord

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Date: 26 Jun 88 09:40:13 GMT
From: marque!gryphon!pnet02!bilbo@csd1.milw.wisc.edu  (Bill Daggett)
Subject: Re: disk drive data disaster, part 2
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

jsd@UMass.BITNET (Jonathan S. Drukman) writes:
>shout in a loud voice: "I'm going to take my drive to the store now for
>alignment.  Oops, looks like I won't make it in time." and slam it back
>down on the desk with a gentle yet firm touch.  It worked for me.

Probably something wasn't making a good connection and jaring the drive or
flexing the cable fixed it.  I plugged an external drive in once and it was
completely inop.  I disconnected the cable and reconnected it and it has
worked faithfully for over 1.5 years.  I never saw what might have caused
this.  It's a tough decision to take something apart that is brand new to make
sure something isn't just loose that you can fix real easily.

Bill

UUCP: ,ihnp4!scgvaxd!cadovax rutgers!marque-!gryphon!pnet02!bilbo
INET: bilbo@pnet02.cts.com
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