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Date: 20 Sep 88 16:32:08 GMT
From: hp-sde!hpcea!hpnmdla!glenne@hplabs.hp.com  (Glenn Elmore)
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   Try the amateur radio magazine "QST" about two or three years ago. They had an article
or two on demodulating and decoding some satellites for display on
computers, I can't remember if it was Atari 8 bit or PCs... maybe both.  If you
really meant 'weather radar' I don't know where to get info (like the
weather radar that the Weather Channel displays) but if you want visible light
or IR photographs I believe there is still stuff going on at 130-140 MHz 
and certainly around 1.6 GHz where the GOES satellites transmit.
   There is also WEFAX hardware available, again in amateur radio circles, 
which will dump directly to a printer from data presently transmitted by 
wire services and others. Try 

Advanced Electronic Applications
P. O. Box C-2160
Lynnwood, WA  98036
(206) 775-7373


I built a system for copying ESSA and NIMBUS sattellites in the early 70's
but I don't think they are running anymore, though the same modulation
techniques are probably in use (NBFM with 2400 HZ subcarrier modulated
to provide synch and luminance info, 200? lines/min 800? lines/frame.)

Glenn Elmore -N6GN-

N6GN @ N6IIU-1
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Date: 21 Sep 88 09:22:34 GMT
From: mcvax!nikhefh!t68@uunet.uu.net  (Jos Vermaseren)
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All this talk about a dying computer is clearly by people who are either
1:	unfamiliar with the European scene
2:	unfriendly to the ST (have an axe to grind).

In Europe the ST is selling very well. Maybe a part of the American
problem (if it exists) is that a much larger percentage of systems sold
in the US is a color system than in Europe. The color systems are not really
very suitable to work with (in the eyes of all the people that I know who
have an Atari). This leaves the color systems as either a special purpose
system, or a games machine. If the dying approach concerns those applications
I'll not say very much. The monochrome systems that I see in use every day
are very powerful mini computers. In the shops they sell very well.
Maybe the good software never made it to the US. A sign that indicates this
is that even turbo-c for the ST was developed in Germany, not by Borland-US.

This leaves the question: why is the American preference for color so much
greater than in Europe? I posed this question a long time ago, but nobody
could come up with an explanation. Anybody has one?

Jos Vermaseren
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Date: 21 Sep 88 22:34:39 GMT
From: agate!e260-4f.berkeley.edu!c60a-1bq@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (nunnayourbiznezz)
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In article <11830008@hpldola.HP.COM> ritchie@hpldola.HP.COM (Dave Ritchie) writes:
>
>  I was looking through one of the Amiga rags he other day and - surprise -
>Soft Logik is doing a PP for the Amiga. Isn't that strange?
>
>				Dave

Yes and no.  It's not strange that a company is porting it's (good) product
over to another machine.  What is strange is that they didn't do this sooner.
They would have their foot in the door, as the Amiga has good draw programs,
but few solid DTP programs (esp. at PP's price).

John Kawakami

Please send replies to c91a-ra@franny instead of this address (where this 
originates from).
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Date: 21 Sep 88 22:37:14 GMT
From: agate!e260-4f.berkeley.edu!c60a-1bq@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (nunnayourbiznezz)
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In article <8809211344.AA07895@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> ABK07@DK0RRZK0.BITNET writes:
>Does anyone have the source of a TeX Driver for the Atari Laserprinter?
>If yes, please post it to me.
>Axel Clauberg
>Institut fuer Kernphysik der Uni Koeln
>Zuelpicher Str. 77
>D 5000 Koeln 41
>West - germany
>Bitnet: ABK07@DK0RRZK0

Does anyone have a list of servers that maintain TeX things.  I also need
to get a TeX driver for my Pana. 1091i (epson compat).

John Kawakami

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Date: 21 Sep 88 22:28:47 GMT
From: mailrus!um-math!hyc@rutgers.edu  (Howard Chu)
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In article <8809211050.AA00106@jade.berkeley.edu> VCD51661@DS0RUS54.BITNET writes:
>Recently I tried to dearchive the file gcx123.arc, belonging to
>the GNU-C compiler postings. I got the following message from my
>arc.ttp:
>"I don't know how to handle file COPYING in archive GCX123.ARC
> I think you need a newer version of ARC."
>The same thing happened with all the other archieves belonging to
>the GNU-C postings I got. The first thing I tried was downloading

Correct, it appears that all the GCC related ARC files were compressed
using Squashing instead of Crunching.

>a newer version of arc from LISTSERV at CANADA01 (BITNET, as I am
>a BITNET user). The file I ordered and received was
>PROG-A16 88-00152, described as "ARC.TTP ... (Repost)". It identi-
>fies itself as (stuff deleted):
>
>"       System Enhancement Associates
>       21 New Street, Wayne NJ 07470
>
> ARC - Archive utility, 5.12 - Atari ST
>
> Atari ST version developed by Harvey Johnson "

There has been one major new version for the ST since 5.12 - 5.21,
with modifications to support Squashing. (developed by lil' ol' me....  }-)

If the person in charge of the CANAD01 LISTSERV would send me a message,
I'll ship 'em off a copy of the latest ARC. I can also be reached directly
on bitnet as
	HYC@UMICHUM

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Date: 21 Sep 88 19:19:29 GMT
From: pacbell!sactoh0!ejnihill@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (Eric J. Nihill)
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  Humble apoligies if this has already been covered for I 
do not normally access this fine newsgroup.
  Does anyone know of a Public Domain program that will allow
users of an Atari ST to access a USENET site and receive mail,
send mail and NETNEWS? The program should be simple enough for
most to install, and be able to run uucico.
  A ideas? I am sure with this wealth of knowledge here on the
net, someone may be able to help. It seems a shame that the
atari BBS are going to IBM's so that they can participate in mail
and a news feed.
  Please respond via E-Mail. I do not get normal access to this
group. 
  This site has sent in their uucp map entry, but it has not yet
been posted to the net. So use the following return mail path:

 ...pacbell!sactoh0!ejnihill

  In advance, Thank-you for your time & help;
                                             Eric

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Date: 21 Sep 88 23:17:10 GMT
From: agate!helios.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!franny.Berkeley.EDU!c91a-ra@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (reader.john.kawakami)
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This is a two parter:

I thought i had moria done all right, but no -- it won't run. It loads up,
then instantly dies with two bombs, then back to the desktop.  It de-arced
ok here (where i got moria), but did not work.  It de-arced fine at home
(on the ST), but did not work.  Both times, I ran it from the desktop as
.TOS and .TTP (which can't work as .TTP uppercases all text).

So I figure, I'll write a prog to call moria (and maybe add options features
later), but that did not work.  Back to the docs.  Seems I have to set env
vars.  Well, I was pretty sure that was not the problem, but I whipped out
68000 ST Ref (by Peel), and looked up the AES calls.  Why?  Because I 
have Personal Pascal, which does not have a built in AES library.  Then set
up the AES calls (C-strings etc.) complied and ran the prog.  Again, this
did not work.

What is going on.  Should I go back over my prog caller and make sure the
command tail is ok?  Should this work under the desktop?  In any case,
moria does not work for me :-{ 

Which brings me to my second:AND MORE IMPORTANT QUESTION

I use OSS personal pascal.  i have no C compiler.
1) has anyone used Tackle box ST?  Is it any good.
2) where can I find info on how to make flawless calls to OS routines from
   PP.  Right now, I'm winging it, mimicking the examples from OSS and using
   the Peel book (which is very good).
3) should I just get C?  Is the level of programming I want to do easier
   in C?
3a) Does MWC come with the Atari Devpack?  (In other words, should i get
    just MWC, or pay the extra $100+ for developer support?)
4) what is a good assembler?  Are there any object-file converters in case
   the objects are not compatible?
5) in general, what are some of the best tools out there (just kidding, don't
   answer this one).

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Date: 21 Sep 88 20:50:03 GMT
From: mcvax!hp4nl!nikhefk!paulm@uunet.uu.net  (Paul Molenaar)
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In article <1633@crete.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> whitbye@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Elliot Maxwell Whitby) writes:
#
#Yes it is unfortunately possible to write to write protected disks.
#This is a great idea for software protection, which I personally don't
#believe in, but you do get the unscrupulous people who are that bad that
#they will ruin everybody else's fun by writing pointless viusses which are
#no use to absolutely anyonee
#
#ps		Borf is here.

C'mon... be more specific. Show me a program that writes to a writeprotected
disk. We did extensive tests on programs that claimed such activity and
always came to the conclusion that all of these rumours are bogwosh.

The hardware specs of Atari drives/diskcontroller are pretty much standard
and I've never (I mean NEVER) seen a modern diskdrive that wasn't
completely capable of recognizing writeprotection.

Gimme more than "Yes it is possible.."
        Paul Molenaar

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Date: 21 Sep 88 18:46:07 GMT
From: super!lerici@uunet.uu.net  (Peter W. Brewer)
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FOR SALE: A slightly used Atari hard disk and cable (I have not had
	  an ST for quite a while) .. 

	  It has software loaded on it.

	  Also I have a large horde of software I would like to sell

	  A partial list follows...


The following is a list of miscellaneous atari software/hardware 
I currently possess.

Beckemeyer MT C-Shell
	   MICRO C-SHELL
	   MICRO RTX
	   MICRO MAKE
	   MICRO C-TOOLS
MegaMax    C-compiler
	   Utilities
Atari      Developer's system
	   linker
	   compiler
	   rcs
	   utilities
           BASIC

Atari      20 MB ST hardware disk

	I will try to put together
	some very reasonable prices
	upon request.

	Peter Brewer
	lerici@super.org




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From: pwp@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu
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Subject: Re: moria troubles /// pascal info soug
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I have used tackle box a little and it seems ok. The documentation seems
 somewhat better than that in the Abacus books or the developer kit, but
I have not check things carefully.
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