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Date: Fri 10 Mar 89 18:31:30 PST
Subject: Info-Atari16 Digest V89 #72
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Info-Atari16 Digest   Friday, March 10, 1989   Volume 89 : Issue 72

This weeks Editor: Bill Westfield

Today's Topics:

                           Hard Drive Kits
       Re: Right of reply, virus- public, private- a thin line
                   Fun With Your Hard Drive Project
                Messenger Plus software for Magic Sac
      form_dial() (was Re: Who have I clobbered? (GEM windows))
                         Discovery questions?
                              FTP sites
                           Debugger/Monitor
                                Re: lc
                    Re: Fleet Street Publisher 2.0
                        Virus 101 - Chapter 1

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Date: 1 Mar 89 16:09:18 GMT
From: nyser!cmx!wotan!gjwelych@cunyvm.cuny.edu  (Greg Welych)
Subject: Hard Drive Kits
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

Hi there. I just purchased a Sheagate ST4096 80Meg full height hard drive,
and would like to know which hard dive kits are the best?

I have various questions about the kits:

1)   Which kits support full height dives?
2)   Which interface hardware is the best?
3)   Which softare best supports an 80Meg drive? How many partitions are
     allowed? Auto-bootable? Whats the maximum size of a partition? Is
     it compatible with Minix or other OSs?
4)   How large is the case? Does the fan make alot of noise?
5)   Which Adaptec interface is the best for a MFM drive?
6)   Which kit is the fastest? Which is the easist to put together?
7)   What are the prices?

Please Email me directly. If anybody wants me to summarize, send me
Email.

Thanks in advance for any and all replies.
Greg Welych.

gjwelych@top.cis.syr.edu
#! rnews  

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Date: 1 Mar 89 15:14:57 GMT
From: biar!trebor@cu-arpa.cs.cornell.edu  (Robert J Woodhead)
Subject: Re: Right of reply, virus- public, private- a thin line
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

In article <1154@lzfme.att.com> jwi@lzfme.att.com (Jim Winer @ AT&T, Middletown, NJ) writes:
>Most virus detecting programs work by intercepting writes to the
>hard disk and by checksumming programs before running them. A small
>change in a virus is not going to  make it invisible to this type of
>checking.

Correct (sort of) but misleading.  Virus detecting inits such as Vaccine
work by intercepting certain resource manager calls.  Unfortunately, they
can get in the way.  Checksumming programs is fine, but it involves adding
checksums to each application or storing them in a central file; each is
vulnerable to viral action.  Viruses can be reprogrammed to avoid these.

Additionally, when you talk about detect and REPAIR programs, small changes
in viruses will make them invisible and/or unrepairable until the program
is updated.  This is because none of these programs want to take a chance of
"repairing" an uninfected version of "Whiz-bang-space-aliens v1.2" just
because it looks sort of like it is infected by a virus.  We are extremely
specific in our check criteria in order to avoid this unfortunate consequence.

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Date: 2 Mar 89 04:18:13 GMT

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