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Re: GEnie uplink is shut down..

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From: Karl Kleinpaste
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 1989 02:31
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logajan@ns.network.com writes:
   You shouldn't let people brow beat you.  Doing the right
   thing does not always win you popularity contests.

Some of us would contend that Mr Small is doing precisely the right
thing by shutting it down until it fits into the overall environment
properly, both technically and politically.  His initial implement-
ation fit under neither consideration, and he now understands why.

   Sometimes you have
   to be a moral/ethical leader rather than a follower.  This selfish group
   of USENET whiners is in desperate need of a model to emulate.  You have
   the credibility to be that model.

I don't whine for anybody, Mr Logajan, nor am I in need of a moral or
ethical role model.  Name-calling accomplishes startlingly little.

Further, with as much respect as I can muster for Mr Small, he does
not (yet) have the credibility for such things.  He said himself that
his implementation of things was not exactly up to par, and that he
doesn't even know how such matters as email addressing are managed.
His suggestions for how to implement an email gateway are, to be
blunt, naive.  What he requires is experience; that's all.  If he
re-does the link correctly, he'll get that experience.  And then he'll
have the credibility, and will have earned the respect of those who
are concerned about the care with which such things are implemented.

   No one has answered my question
   about why telephone companies, computer companines, modem companies and
   software companies can all make money off USENET sites and GEnie can't.

You appear not to have been reading very closely.  Quite a few of us
have agreed quite readily that there is no reason GEnie shouldn't make
a profit, given especially precedents in the form of Portal and
others.  Many of us disagreed only with the imbalance of the link, not
its existence or the profit to be made from it.

   I should be offended by your whimping out and leaving the GEnie user in
   the information poor house.

Might it occur to you that he may face somewhat more disagreeable
users on the GEnie side, and that turning the link off is quite the
opposite of "wimping out?"  That he will now have to face them to say,
"I had to turn it off because it needs to be redesigned properly?"  I
daresay he's got quite a bit of work ahead of himself; he's not
wimping out in the least.

Your predilection toward name-calling completely eradicates any
argument you might have had.

--Karl
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Subject: Re: GEnie uplink is shut down..
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