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In article <9002081436.AA09758@freya.dmswwu-ether>, ONM07@DMSWWU1A.BITNET (Julian Reschke) writes:
> In article <BAMMI.90Feb6182843@curie.ces.CWRU.Edu> Jwahar R. Bammi
> writes:
>> thats correct, but dales suggestion is still fine. its isatty() that
>> needs to be fixed up, so that it does'nt think that PRN: isatty().
>> (just out of curiosity, why would someone send stderr to PRN:? why not
>> to a file, and then if its really needed, print the file (saves a few
>> trees in the process)).
> I think that this is a very natural thing to do with stderr. IF we try
> to suggest a good method, it should be possible to do all things that
> you do with sterr on other OS's. If Atari makes a workings suggestion,
> it will be surely incorporated in Gemini 1.2.

[Dale's suggestion was for startup code to do something like
  if (isatty(2)) Fforce(2, -1).]

How about this suggestion: if all programmers who use the Atari extended
argument passing scheme (ARGV=, etc.) also agree that handle 2 should be
stderr, then startup code could do:
  if (*argv[0] == 0 && isatty(2)) Fforce(2, -1).
(This assumes that argv[0] is an empty string if it isn't available, as
specified by the ANSI standard). This way, ARGV compatible shells can
redirect stderr to anything at all; non-ARGV compatible shells can redirect
stderr to a file; and programs still correctly re-direct handle 2 when
run from the desktop.
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