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In article <4634aec9.14a1f@force.UUCP> covertr@force.UUCP (Richard E. Covert) writes:
>The problem Greg is that you just plain and simply can't count on
>Atari for support!! If Atari was going to support the ST, why didn't Atari
>license GPLUS from Charles Johnson and include it in TOS 1.4??

You still don't get it, do you?  Atari is not in the third-party software
business.  If a third-party product exists, and you like it better, then buy
it, use it, and support the third-party developers!  Does it matter if you buy
GDOS from Atari or buy it from Codehead?  You'll pay for it one way or
another!  "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch".  Also, Ken B. from
Atari has repeatedly stated that there isn't room in the ROMs for all of these
enhancements!  If you like NeoDesk, then buy NeoDesk!  If you like GPLUS, then
buy GPLUS!  Just don't expect Atari to buy your software for you and code it
into the ROMS!

>And Atari didn't even want to admit that there was a bug in the serial
>port code in TOS 1.4 until the Canadian hacker showed Atari the actual
>bug in the code. Pretty responsive of Atari, huh?? And this is for an OS
>that has been under development for 2 years!! After 2 years, you would think
>that Atari would have it right!!!

Oh my, a bug in RTS/CTS handling!  Tsk, tsk.  Forget about the zillions of
bugs they fixed, forget about the months of development, and focus on one
obscure bug.  The reason it wasn't fixed, I'm sure, is that none of the
developers who beta-tested even *use* RTS/CTS flow control!

Why don't you pay up and become a developer?  Try working to make the Atari
better instead of complaining about how bad it is?!?

Go buy an Amiga or something and quit complaining!

>Boy, a good outline font system, aka the macintosh system, would really be
>great for the ST!! But asking Atari for anything like that is like jumping
>to the moon, you'll never get there!!

Better yet, go buy a Macintosh, if they're so great!  I think you'll find that
Apple can afford the huge R&D costs for new fonts with all the money they make
off of the Mac!  (Warning: there is probably a generalization there
somewhere :-)

Yes, an outline font would be nice.  So make one!

>I like the third party support starting to appear for the ST. My favorite
>product is the Turbo16 product from FAST TECHNOLOGY. T16 really speeds up
>my Mega ST!! It is great!!!

I agree.  Hurray for the third-party support!  Think about it--how much of
what's really useful on the IBM-PC is produced *by* IBM?  Any of it?

>So, lets support the good 3rd party enhancments to the ST and hope that
>things will get better IN SPITE OF ATARI!!

Wrong.  If it wasn't for Atari, we wouldn't have this wonderful machine that
truley delivers "power without the price"!  When the ST first came out, an
8MHz 68000 was *power*!!!  Even today, it is a respectable machine.  Ever
priced a 25MHz 68030 machine?  Come up with a figure a home hobbyist could
afford?  I didn't think so.

>Rich (Proud owner of a souped up T16ed Mega ST4!!) Covert

You don't sound very proud to me.  I'm not trying to single you out
specifically, but I sure get tired of people who think that Atari should do
everthing for them.  I'm glad there are developers who *do* something to
improve the machine, instead of just whine and complain.
-- 
Paul Close	paul@cacilj.CTS.COM 	...!{uunet, ucsd, crash}!cacilj!paul

    The Obi-wan Kenobi method:  "Use the Source, Luke"	-Jim Fulton