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Let me add some corrections & explanations concerning Turbo C ST
( I use it, and I have talked to the people at Borland Germany )

limonce@pilot.njin.net (Tom Limoncelli) writes:

>When Borland ported Turbo Pascal to the Mac, they did a real port,
>hired 680x0 experts, etc.  This "Turbo C for the ST" is a third-party
>that made a C compiler for the ST 

Partly true: TC ST started as a independent developpement, but has been
taken over by Borland Germany; at least the stand-alone CPP and the
parser part are said to be _now_ (replaced by) direct ports of TC PC.
( You can see this by TC STs ability to (optionally) recognize
keywords like 'far' or 'huge'. )
Code generation, editor et. are independent products.

>and is having it marketed by Borland in certain countries.  

Borland is not a single entity:  Borland GmbH, the German distributor
of Turbo software incl. TC ST, is - I think - quite independent of
Borland USA ( they just switched their name, which was "Heimsoeth GmbH"
before ).
Borland US doesn't make ST software, Borland GmbH does.

[ By the way, since TC ST is priced very low, dealers have only a
small margin, so they often do not carry it ( or have outdated versions ).
I got mine via mailorder ( really: I called them, they _reserved_ my item,
so 3 days later(!) I could drop in and fetch it ) from Borland GmbH,
and they do international mailorders too. I think there is an english
speaking version of program+manual+onlinehelp available. ]

>Now, the eighth-hand information that I've gotten (NOTE:  DISCLAIMER:
>THIS ISN'T FIRST HAND INFORMATION) is that this third-party ST product
>is second rate... or at least it doesn't meet "American standards".

Nooo. There have been some bugs in version 1.00 - You wouldn't have 
thought so :-)  - but now version 1.10 is out and ok.
TC ST is a better compiler than I dared to dream of before!
( Ok, I have some personal objections against their integrated editor,
so I don't use it, preferring Tempus instead. )

>Then again, maybe they just don't have the (VERY BIG)
>staff required to properly support a product.  Then again, maybe
>they're shooting for a different image than the ST can provide.
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ in the USA !

Remember, there are vast differences in the image the ST got in the US
and in Europe: here you find STs almost everywhere in the
scientific and technical sector ( see this article about the brand
new lab equipment - they use a ST to controll it; see the picture of
the famous Prof. VeryImportant at his working place - and the ST on his
desk; GEC recently proudly presented their new LCD car display showing
a digitized odometer - but what are those little drawer icons
near the left edge :-)   You get the picture.



             I know that You believe You understand what You think I said, but
             I'm not sure You realize that what You heard is not what I meant.

Roland Rambau

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