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Re: Soz C V1.2 Upgrade help required

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From: pegram r
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 1989 18:28
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From article <1852@atari.UUCP>, by kbad@atari.UUCP (Ken Badertscher):
> steve@thelake.UUCP (Steve Yelvington) writes:
> | In addition to providing a proper environment string, Gulam (or any other
> | competent shell) will pass arguments to the Sozobon compiler and utilities
> | without mangling them. GEM Desktop uppercases everything [...]

> The Desktop stopped doing that as of Mega TOS.  Rainbow TOS doesn't mangle
> args in the TTP box either.  Yet Another Reason To Get Rainbow TOS.
> -- 
>    |||   Ken Badertscher  (ames!atari!kbad)
>    |||   Atari R&D System Software Engine
>   / | \  #include <disclaimer>

One good thing came from that original bug in the Desktop, Dan Wilga
wrote Neodesk.  It still supports a proper environment string (which
you have to set up) and probably could run Soz C.  So people with and
without TOS 1.4 can run good stuff from a<n excellent> desktop.  

	Damn news posting program wants more original input, so here's
a short description of NeoDesk.  ND replaces the desktop with an
enhanced version, it can remain resident (about 230K) and function
just like the desktop, or it can leave only 21k in Ram as programs
execute, reloading afterwards (slow! w/o pinhed 8-)).  It supports
icons for every possible program name or extension, which can be 
created in its own icon editor.  It improves on the desktop in many 
subtle ways: printer icon for printing with spooling, so double clicking on
a non executable icon immediately shows its contents on the screen - it
can run a command interpreter on batch files -  it does a correct application 
install - allows "program icons" to be placed on the desktop, so you 
don't have to shuffle through all your hard drive folders to execute 
those programs, has keyboard equivalents for many menu and desktop 
operations, and more that I forget (improved disk and file copy,
formatting to real IBM, sets date and time correctly, allows file MOVES...
8-)).

Speaking of reloading and such can anyone tell me why the Laser C (2.1)
shell loads external programs so fast?  I run it with Pinhed, 
TurboSt 1.6, and TurboDos 1.05, and it beats the desktop and NeoDesk 
(2.03) all to pieces.

On speedups and the reverse, I pulled out my HabaWriter 1.1 (the debugged
version) and ran it with TurboST.  Very amused to find that TurboST
makes it acceptably fast, but it still won't do double spacing.
TurboSt 1.6 slows one program drastically, Opus 1.? (from STLog), the
lines dividing the cells take forever to draw.  TurboST 1.6 (on Monochrome) 
also blows up if it's in Multidesk and Neodesk runs afterwards.

Bob Pegram (pegram@griffin.uvm-gen.uvm.edu <@ U.of Vt.>)
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Subject: Re: Soz C V1.2 Upgrade help required
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Date: 7 Dec 89 18:28:15 GMT
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