🚀 go-pugleaf

As some of you know, I posted a moderately long list of my favorite
gripes about NOS/VE early in this thread to which there was quite a
reaction. In particular, I received LOTS of great help from Daren
Latham who works for CDC. Thanks, Daren!  A few others sent helpful
e-mail (thanks, others), and I got a bit of hate mail (oh, well).

The upshot of all this is that I now realize a lot of the problems I
have encountered are the result of non-current revisions, to the
conservative way our particular site has been administered, and
admittedly to a lack of knowledge about the nitty-gritties of NOS/VE
on my part.

Several of these aspects conspired, in keeping with Murphey's Law, to
make things seem much worse than they CAN be.

Those of you who have been tempted to send me hate mail can interpret
this as a retraction. Those of you who might have more helpful advice,
please don't! While Daren (et al) provided me with lots of great work-
arounds, I can still use all the help I can get :-).  One exception:
Several people have mentioned that there are ways to do SHOW USERS-
type operations. Since our system administrators have chosen not
to allow this type of operation, advice about it is of no use to me.

One thing I AM still interested in is if anyone has managed to port
Emacs to NOS/VE (as mentioned is probably possible in the last
article).  While NOS/VE has a great editor already, it would still be
of great value to me to have Emacs working there, since I have it on
all of the other OS's I work with regularly (about 6 others in
addition to NOS/VE), and it is a great savings in brain strain not to
have to change editors when moving between machines.

-steve

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