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Rainbow EchoMail Digest                         Apr 24, 1991

In this issue:
  Rainbow on Internet?
  LACK OF INTEREST               (5 messages)
  RE: HELP?!
  RE: RAINBOW ON INTERNET?       (3 messages)
  ORIGINAL DEC-RAINBOW SOFT
  L-100 PRINTER/SALE
  WUTIL FOR DOS 3.10B            (2 messages)


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Date:     20 Apr 91  17:19 -0500
From:     GEORGE THEALL
To:       STEVE GIBBONS
Subject:  Rainbow on Internet?

>I'd like to know if anyone is using IP on a Rainbow.
...
>To be even _more_ specific:  I'd like clients for
>Telnet/Rlogin/Rshell, FTP; as well as an MUA for mail, and a user
>agent for NNTP...  Host software would also be useful...

   Don't know of anything extant, but have you looked at Phil Karn's
KA9Q? Together with the SLIP driver from Clarkson Univ it should offer
the capabilities you desire (not sure about Rlogin and Rshell tho').

   Source for both items is available. KA9Q doesn't appear to do
anything fancy with the screen, keyboard or disk. You would have to
muck with the packet driver, as it's written with the 8250 UART in
mind.

George

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Date:     20 Apr 91  02:08 -0500
From:     NOLAN LEE
To:       ALL INTERESTED PARTIES
Subject:  LACK OF INTEREST

Wow, I made a plea for Rainbow shareware and freeware to add a Bos specific
section to my BBS and didn't even get the first comment.
I guess that this is the reason that Rainbow is fading so rapidly, "Lack
of Intrest"!

Well, at least I made an attempt.  :-)

Nolan


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Date:     21 Apr 91  08:17 -0500
From:     FRANK MALLORY
To:       NOLAN LEE
Subject:  LACK OF INTEREST

 NL> Wow, I made a plea for Rainbow shareware and freeware to add a Bos
 NL> specific
 NL> section to my BBS and didn't even get the first comment.
 NL> I guess that this is the reason that Rainbow is fading so rapidly,
 NL> "Lack
 NL> of Intrest"!

Generally, it's up to the sysop to get the initial files on his BBS.
Mine came from one of the DECUS tapes. If you have a DECUS tape
librarian in your area (typically associated with a VAX), you
might check to see if there is some way you can download all
the MS-DOS files from him. Those files came with a FILES.BBS
file (or equivalent), so you will have a readily-usable listing
of file names and descriptions.

You are of course welcome to d/l whatever you want from the Silver
Bullet, and I will throw in the FILES.BBS; but of course you
will incur LD charges.


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Date:     21 Apr 91  08:19 -0500
From:     DON MARQUART
To:       NOLAN LEE
Subject:  LACK OF INTEREST


 > Wow, I made a plea for Rainbow shareware and freeware to add a Bos specific
 > section to my BBS and didn't even get the first comment.

Hmmm, seems like I did respond to your message.

As the BBS was recently shut down here after several years of operation
if you have the capabilities to read HD IBM disks I will make a
copy of the Rainbow section for you. You would need to send
about 30 meg(?) worth of disks for the copies and allow enough
time for me to restore the section from tape.  Just finished
giving Warner a "shopping bag" full of Rainbow stuff to start
his section.  I also do not want to see support for RB die.
Will probably put the RB section up for file request only from
this system as soon as time permits.

 > I guess that this is the reason that Rainbow is fading so rapidly, "Lack
 > of Intrest"!
 >
 > Well, at least I made an attempt.  :-)

Maybe you never received the replies...  Might try it again.

Later...


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Date:     21 Apr 91  16:54 -0500
From:     PAUL ROBINSON
To:       GEORGE THEALL
Subject:  RE: HELP?!

I will note that the BBS named at the bottom of this message runs OPUS
on a Rainbow.


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Date:     21 Apr 91  16:55 -0500
From:     PAUL ROBINSON
To:       GEORGE THEALL
Subject:  RE: RAINBOW ON INTERNET?

For the person who asked about doing FTP to dial-up sites, I'd like to
learn how myself; I've been trying to get information about it
for quite a while [over a year] now.

 There are two places that I know of; I have never called either one
because until recently I did not have a UUCP [or the UUPC
clone] to do FTP transfers.  There are two that I know of:
GRAPE at 315-268-6667
 and the public one that is put out by UUNET technologies,
 1-900-GOT-SRCS.  Grape is free other than long distance charges,
 UUNET is 40c/minute.  I would also suggest - which the literature
 for the UUNET connection does - to use 9600 baud due to the charge.
 One point it made was that the entire X-Windows sources could be
downloaded from this number for about $300, less than the
distribution tape.  Or for $10 you could get the GCC compiler.
I'd rather try a
 lower cost one than this, myself.  Also, uunet sells a tape of almost
everything:  All the Internet RFCs [14 meg], the GAMES archives
[30 meg], one of the X-Windows source distributions [20 meg],
the Free Software collection [20 meg], and all the Berkley
sources that don't require an AT&T License.  Around $370 for 3
tapes of 6250 BPI and everything packed with COMPRESS [except
COMPRESS.C, of course].

 UUNET'S address is:  info@uu.uunet.net  if I remember correctly.

 The sources for the KERMIT distribution are also supposed to be
available from U. of Oklahoma via a dial-up UUCP connection.
Don't know what it is, though.


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Date:     21 Apr 91  17:54 -0500
From:     FRANK MALLORY
To:       PAUL ROBINSON
Subject:  RE: RAINBOW ON INTERNET?

 PR> For the person who asked about doing FTP to dial-up sites, I'd like to
 PR> learn how myself; I've been trying to get information about it for
 PR> quite a while [over a year] now.

Paul, I have recently been referred to two local systems called CHADO
(109/409) and HALLUC (109/345) that are supposed to furnish
this capability somehow. You might try contacting them via
netmail or email.


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Date:     21 Apr 91  19:59 -0500
From:     NOLAN LEE
To:       FRANK MALLORY
Subject:  LACK OF INTEREST

In a message of <Apr 21 08:17>, Frank Mallory (1:109/417) writes:
FM>BBS. Mine came from one of the DECUS tapes. If you have a DECUS
 FM>tape librarian in your area (typically associated with a VAX),
 FM>you might check to see if there is some way you can download all
 FM>the MS-DOS files from him. Those files came with a FILES.BBS file
 FM>(or equivalent), so you will have a readily-usable listing of
 FM>file names and descriptions.

 FM>You are of course welcome to d/l whatever you want from the
 FM>Silver Bullet, and I will throw in the FILES.BBS; but of course
 FM>you will incur LD charges.

Thanks for the offer Frank, I'll check and see if I'm lucky enought to have one
locally.

Thanks,
Nolan


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Date:     21 Apr 91  20:02 -0500
From:     NOLAN LEE
To:       DON MARQUART
Subject:  LACK OF INTEREST

In a message of <Apr 21 08:19>, Don Marquart (1:104/888) writes:
 DM>
 > Wow, I made a plea for Rainbow shareware and freeware to add a Bos specific
 > section to my BBS and didn't even get the first comment.
 DM>
 DM>Hmmm, seems like I did respond to your message.
 DM>
 DM>As the BBS was recently shut down here after several years of
 DM>operation if you have the capabilities to read HD IBM disks I
 DM>will make a copy of the Rainbow section for you. You would need
 DM>to send about 30 meg(?) worth of disks for the copies and allow
 DM>enough time for me to restore the section from tape.  Just
 DM>finished giving Warner a "shopping bag" full of Rainbow stuff to
 DM>start his section.  I also do not want to see support for RB die.
 DM>Will probably put the RB section up for file request only from
 DM>this system as soon as time permits.
Thanks for thew offer Don. Its possible that the message was lost somewhere.
  The only disks that I can use are IBM 360 & 720K and the DEC 400K
Do you have the "files.bbs" description for the files that you have?

Thanks in advance,
Nolan


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Date:     22 Apr 91  14:37 -0500
From:     GEORGE THEALL
To:       PAUL ROBINSON
Subject:  RE: RAINBOW ON INTERNET?

PR> There are two places that I know of; I have never called either one
PR>because until recently I did not have a UUCP [or the UUPC
PR>clone] to do FTP transfers.  There are two that I know of:
PR>GRAPE at 315-268-6667
PR> and the public one that is put out by UUNET technologies,
PR> 1-900-GOT-SRCS.

   You're confusing FTP with uucp, at least as concerns those sites
and those phone numbers. While both are file transfer protocols, they
are not compatible.

George
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Date:     20 Apr 91  23:07 -0500
From:     ELIAS HAGE
To:       ALL
Subject:  ORIGINAL DEC-RAINBOW SOFT

I have the following original software with the original documentation
still in boxes:
1. The Accounting Partner
2. Microsoft Multiplan-86
3. Cbasic- Basic Compiler
4. MS-dos operating system ver:2.11
5. Cp/M operating system
6. others
If anybody is interested in buying any of the above software plesae
leave a message or call (213) 645-4409 (evenings) and ask for Elias
Any offer will be considered.


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Date:     20 Apr 91  23:13 -0500
From:     ELIAS HAGE
To:       ALL
Subject:  L-100 PRINTER/SALE

I have an L-100 wide carriage printer for sale. The printer is
hardly used and comes with a serial cable and 7 ribbons and tactor
paper feeder. I am asking for $200.00 . Call Elias at:
      (213) 645-4409 in the evenings or leave a message. thanks


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Date:     22 Apr 91  08:30 -0500
From:     FRANK MALLORY
To:       ANYONE
Subject:  WUTIL FOR DOS 3.10B

Does anybody have the version of WUTIL that runs under 3.10b? I think
it may be version 3.12.


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Date:     23 Apr 91  13:39 -0500
From:     GEORGE THEALL
To:       FRANK MALLORY
Subject:  WUTIL FOR DOS 3.10B

FM>Does anybody have the version of WUTIL that runs under 3.10b? I think
FM>it may be version 3.12.

   It's v3.2. You can probably get it from Penn's Landing bbs (+1 215
898 8511) in the Rainbow file area (OPEN;1 once logging in). I say
"probably" because the board seems down more often than up and I'm
unsure if first-time callers get download privileges.

   If you have FTP access, the file is also available from
DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU in directory info-dec-micro.uploads.

George

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