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From: Charles Lasner
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:54
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In article <1992Apr13.130935.6899@sci.kun.nl> tmiller@sci.kun.nl (Todd M. Miller) writes:
>
>The biggest problem with these PRO's is getting good software.  The P/OS
>operating system isn't too bad but the manuals cost a fortune from DECUS.
>So the problem is really DECUS and this pseudo public domain status of P/OS.
>I have the entire tape for P/OS 3.2 and an ftp site to put it on, but is
>that legal?  Probably not.  On the other hand there is never going to be
>a renewed interest in programming the PRO's under the DECUS system.

Submission to DECUS means that you can copy it.  You can't sell it and you have
to include DEC's copyright notice, but you can distribute it; that's what DECUS
does; the charges are "overhead" charges, not license fees.

>My advice is:

[...]

>4. Write your own operating system - Not a smart move because the 11/23 is
>outdated.

In spite of virtually no documentation, I did this for the DECmate.  Actually
I already wrote a system for the PDP-8 and have figured out most of what's
different about the beast from the -8's.  It's enough to be annoying but not
impossible to fix.

  I am also spearheading an effort to clean up DEC's system which has been 
submitted to DECUS and is therefore public domain.  Also, I distribute, through
Columbia University and the Kermit project, a few utilities from DEC's system
which are taken from the DECUS submission directly.  (They are needed to create
Kermit-12, my implementation of Kermit for the DECmate and PDP-8.)

cjl
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