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Rainbow EchoMail Digest                     Dec 30, 1989

In this issue:
  DIGITIZER ON RAINBOW
  RE: SUITABLE SOLUTIONS
  RE: DEC STUFF
  FORAY
  RE: SEDT V4                    (2 messages)
  RE: Z80                        (2 messages)
  CHECK
  Z80
  RE: GRAPHICS ON A NON-LA5      (2 messages)


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Date:     12-26-89 (09:41)
To:       ALL
Subject:  DIGITIZER ON RAINBOW
From:     JOHN DENNER

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF A SUMMAGRAPHICS 9X6 MM SERIES DIGITIZER CAN BE USED
WITH A RAINBOW?


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* Origin: Midnight DEC - The place for DEC sales & information (Opus 1:101/45)

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Date:     12-27-89 (13:34)
To:       GEORGE TURNER
Subject:  RE: SUITABLE SOLUTIONS
From:     DAVID HUGHES

Ok, tx for the address.

david

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Date:     12-27-89 (13:37)
To:       GEORGE THEALL
Subject:  RE: DEC STUFF
From:     DAVID HUGHES

Tx for the extensive information.  I like my bow and want to hang on to it,
if even just to type on.

Your info however gave me some options that are interesting.

New question (which I am sur is overused, abused, and hopefully excused):

Is there a software printer spooler out there that works on the Rainbow?
Where can I grab if such a one exists.  had seen them before, but the ones
I downloaded (3 years ago?) never worked.

david

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Date:     12-25-89 (04:35)
To:       MARK BORNSTEIN
Subject:  FORAY
From:     BRUCE JACKSON

Wow. I haven't visited the Rainbow echo for a while and I just read the
string of messages from Geoff Reed, George Theall, David Strickler, and
Mark Bornstein. I know people often go crazy at funerals but this is the
first time I've seen people going berserk over a petty financial
transaction for a moribund computer line. I don't know Reed and Theall,
but I know the other messages writers and I keep getting the feeling
there is something going on here that exists outside the texts.
Mark Bornstein is the only dealer in computerland who has always dealt
with people on the basis of a telephone handshake: you call, you talk,
and he sends stuff out. Give him a good story and he'll even wait a long
time for the check. Say something is bad, say you don't like it, say
your dog doesn't like it, and he'll take it back with no argument. He
says what he thinks, a virtue some people don't much like, and he's
straight in his business dealings, a characteristic some people don't
recognize. So what's all the fuss? And why all the heat? From what I
read here, it seems some guy stiffed Mark and Mark said so, and as a
result other people are jumping on Mark. I'd think other people would
thank him so they'd know to be wary. Merry Christmas, gang.


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Date:     12-28-89 (20:02)
To:       FRANK MALLORY
Subject:  RE: SEDT V4
From:     KEVIN PORTER

FM> Do you have a copy of SEDT4DOS that includes MAPKEY for the Rainbow?

Anker tells me he is sending another baselevel (27x ?) to SDN for
distribution which has many bugs squashed... keep your eyes peeled for
that to come sailing "down the pipe" any day now...

- Kevin R. Porter
WayStar BBS


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Date:     12-28-89 (20:06)
To:       FRANK MALLORY
Subject:  RE: Z80
From:     KEVIN PORTER

* Reply on a message originally to Carl Houseman
FM> I bought a 6MHz Z80 and plugged it into the 'bow.  Works fine, but it
FM> doesn't  obviate the need for the boot ROM mod for use with the V20.
FM> I've got to run some benchmarks before I can tell whether a faster Z80 has
FM> any benefits at all in the 'bow.

I doubt that simply plugging in a faster rated Z80 uProcessor chip would
have any noticable effect unless you ALSO increased the system clock rate,
which would be likely to bring out a whole hornets nest of timing issues.

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Date:     12-29-89 (00:02)
To:       MARK BORNSTEIN
Subject:  CHECK
From:     RICHARD KENADEK

Hey Mark
Did you ever get that check that Jeoff Reed promised to send you from 2 years
ago????
Just wondering if that dead beat ever paid up or not.

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Date:     12-27-89
To:       FRANK MALLORY
Subject:  Z80
From:     GORDON GREEN

> I bought a 6MHz Z80 and plugged it into the 'bow.  Works fine, but it
> doesn't obviate the need for the boot ROM mod for use with the V20.
>
> I've got to run some benchmarks before I can tell whether a faster Z80 has
> any benefits at all in the 'bow.
>
The 6 mHz Z80 just means that the chip can handle a clock rate up to 6 mHz.
Plugging it into a Raimbow does not change the Rainbow clock rate, and the
new Z80 still needs the same number of clock ticks for its instructions
as did the old one, hence, no change in speed.  The V20 on the other hand
uses fewer clock ticks than does an 8080 for many of its instructions, hence
it does result in faster operation, and hence the need for the ROM mod.
Hope this helps.


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Date:     12-29-89 (07:30)
To:       KEVIN PORTER
Subject:  RE: SEDT V4
From:     FRANK MALLORY

> Anker tells me he is sending another baselevel (27x ?)
> to SDN for
> distribution which has many bugs squashed... keep your
> eyes peeled for

Thanks, Kevin; I'll be on the watch for it.  Got a note yesterday from Anker
acknowledging my contribution and saying that I could get it direct from
him; but I'd rather not bother him.

It turns out that the spurious screen stuff put up by (260) is more than
a minor annoyance, because you can end up editing the wrong line in some
cases if you fail to give ctrl-w to reset the screen.

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* Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Maryland - 301-622-2247 (Opus 1:109/1

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Date:     12-29-89 (07:40)
To:       KEVIN PORTER
Subject:  RE: Z80
From:     FRANK MALLORY

> I doubt that simply plugging in a faster rated Z80 uProcessor chip would
> have any noticable effect unless you ALSO increased the system clock rate,
> which would be likely to bring out a whole hornets nest

It appears you are correct, Kevin.  I ran the complete v2.0 diagnostic before
and after and found no significant time difference.  But for only $2.75,
I figured it was worth a try.

Nothing to do with the Z80, but the BENCH53 test rates my machine at 515
Dhrystones and 4481 Whetstones/sec.  If anyone has the figures for the Turbow,
I would like to know them.

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* Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Maryland - 301-622-2247 (Opus 1:109/1

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Date:     12-29-89 (07:56)
To:       GEORGE THEALL
Subject:  RE: GRAPHICS ON A NON-LA5
From:     FRANK MALLORY

>
>    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you'll have
> to manually piece
> the parts together then. There should have been 3 parts,

I did that.  UUDECODE appeared to run OK, but the resultant ZIP was no good.
If you can do it all in one piece, how about uuencoding Marks' program and
sending it to me?

BTW, the last uuencoded file I sent you was 14k in length; so we know the
system can handle messages up to that length, at least.

> ---
>   EZ 1.234 #263  Unrecognized faults lead to wasted
> efforts

Do you have a Fortune Cookie program piping input to your tear line now,
George? :-)

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* Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Maryland - 301-622-2247 (Opus 1:109/1

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Date:     12-30-89 (10:20)
To:       FRANK MALLORY
Subject:  RE: GRAPHICS ON A NON-LA5
From:     GEORGE THEALL

FM>UUDECODE appeared to run OK, but the resultant ZIP was no good.
FM>If you can do it all in one piece, how about uuencoding Marks' program and
FM>sending it to me?

   I think that would be a bad idea. If the ZIP came out corrupted, at
least you found out before attempting to run a program. What would
happen if I sent the executables for Marks' UUENCODE/UUDECODE?

   Which version of PKZIP did you use? The ZIP file was created on my
end with PKZIP v1.02. The imploding method, new to v1.x, was used.

   How was the file corrupted? What error messages did PKUNZIP provide?
Did you check to see whether trailing blanks were striped out of the
encoded file by a mailer somewhere? How many lines were there in the
encoded file? There should have been 314 lines, counting all those
between "begin" and "end".

George
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