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Rainbow Echomail Digest                      OCT 17, 1989

In this issue:
   RE: RE: RE: RE: RAINBOW U
   WANTED
   RE: RE: RAINBOW?
   RE: PATCHES FOR TURBO C,
   LOTUS-123
   RE: FIDONET ON COMPUSERV     (2 messages)
   RE: RAINBOW?
   LAZY DATES
   RE: OPUS UNDER V3.10B
   RE: PATCH KIT FOR TURBO-C
   FOUND TRACTOR FOR DECW4
   RE: ALTERNATE CHARACTERS


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Date:     10-13-89
Subject:  RE: RE: RE: RE: RAINBOW U
From:      FRANK MALLORY

GT>   Well, the folks here don't seem too enthusiastic about a link with
GT> Compuserve. Two fellows seem vehemently opposed "on principle", and I
GT> seem
GT> to be the only one excited about the possibilities. What about those
GT> others
GT> lurking in the backgroud - any opinions? I'd hate for Bill to begin
GT> coding
GT> this stuff and then find out a linkup with Compuserve won't be
GT> permitted.

It's OK by me.


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* Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Maryland - 301-622-2247 (1:109/123)
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Date:      10-12-89 (18:55)
Subject:  WANTED
From:      ERIC SPEARS

I'm a new Rainbow user.  Recently bought a Model B machine at Boeing Surplus
and would like to expand it a little.  Here's what I'm looking for:
256 K RAM Chips (18 of them) to max out at 896 k
Graphics Board for Rainbow
Color Monitor for Rainbow
Tractor feed assembly for DEC LA34 printer
Rainbow compatible hard drive larger than 20 mBytes

Here are some things that I'd like to sell or trade for the above items:
Qume Sprint 11/40+ Daisywheel Printer with serial interface
Victor 9000, 2 disk drives, 128 k RAM, dBase II, WS, SC
PCturbo 286e Memory expansion card for I*M PC,XT,AT, 3 mBytes RAM &
80287
Hayes 1200 External Modem
A/B Switch Box
A/B/C Switch Box

If a tractor feed for the DECWriter can't be located, I'd also be interested
in getting ahold of a DEC compatible printer with a tractor feed.

Leave me a message here or call (206) 847-4640 if you're interested in doing
business.
Eric Spears

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* Origin: Total Access Board 138/103 Tacoma, Wa (206)472-9884 (1:138/103)
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Date:      10-13-89 (07:55)
Subject:  RE: RE: RAINBOW?
From:      GARY STEBBINS


GT>It can read/write to **single**-sided
GT>double-density PC floppies, and Rainbow floppies can be used
GT>on 1.2MB AT
GT>drives with a special device driver, but you'll probably find
GT>this a headache.

I have an AT on one end of my computer table and my Rainbow on the other
end.  I use the RX50 driver in the AT, and move data back and forth regularly.
I have never found it to be a problem in any way.  It gives me a lot of
flexibility in running the right program on the right machine at the right
time.  I use the Rainbow mostly for communications in one form or another
(Kermit on the Rainbow makes a beautiful intelligent terminal emulator for
connecting to a VAX/VMS host) and the faster AT for work requiring speed
or I*M compatibility.  I also archive all of the Rainbow software on 1.2MB
diskettes on the AT - this cuts down the number of disktettes I have lying
around in various corners of the room.

-gary-

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* Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 (Opus 1:343/3)
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Date:      10-13-89 (08:04)
Subject:  RE: PATCHES FOR TURBO C,
From:      GARY STEBBINS


GT>        I just finished speaking with Mike Feeley, who's offerred to
GT>        upload my patches to several Rainbow boards around the country.
GT>        (Geez, Mike, trying to give Ma Bell some extra business? :-)
GT>        Look for file TC2PATRB.ZIP in about 1 week on Island Logistics,
GT>        Pot O' Gold, Glacier Peak, and Long Island Rainbow.

It's here....

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* Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 (Opus 1:343/3)
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Date:      10-13-89 (19:32)
Subject:  LOTUS-123
From:      SARAH JONES

Hi People
In the first edition of Lotus (ver 1a) if one was deep in the menus he/she
could press the cancel Key and get out in one single key-stroke.
With version 2.1 I have to press the escape key umpteen times any time
I want to get back from a wrong menu.
Is there a short way of doing this ?  Any help will be appreciated.
Regards Sarah Jones


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* Origin: Midnight DEC - The place for DEC sales & information (Opus 1:101/45)
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Date:     10-14-89
Subject:  RE: FIDONET ON COMPUSERV
From:      MAYNARD MARQUIS


Thank you for your participation. I don't feel that it was unproductive.
I learned much from your messages. Again, thanks.



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* Origin: TeleTalk BBS (203-674-1802)  (1:142/328)
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Date:     10-14-89
Subject:  RE: RAINBOW?
From:      MAYNARD MARQUIS

In a message of <30 Sep 89 08:50:00>, GEORGE THEALL (1:273/203) writes:

>
>  I hate to sound negative about the Rainbow, but it's not a machine for
>the faint-of-heart. Unless you/your friend are already familiar with
>Rainbows, you're better off **not** buying one.
>

Sad, but true. Unless you have a good reason to specially want the Rainbow,
then you're probably better off with a clone. I bought my first clone back
when I realized that it cost the same to put a hard disk in my Rainbow or
to buy a complete XT clone with hard disk. (The new found PC compatibility
was a bonus.) Prices have changed a lot since back then, but some of the diffi
with the maximizing the 'bow have not.
Too bad, except for the bZZZZZT of the RX50, it is a very nice machine.
(It's hard to realize that just how advanced the keyboard was when it first
came out. It's still my favorite! )

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* Origin: TeleTalk BBS (203-674-1802)  (1:142/328)
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Date:     10-14-89
Subject:  RE: FIDONET ON COMPUSERV
From:      MAYNARD MARQUIS

In a message of <02 Oct 89 18:25:00>, GEORGE THEALL (1:273/203) writes:
>  Then why *** DID *** you put up your BBS? Your attitude seems rather
>selfish, petty, and narrow-minded. Suppose people like Larry Campbell,

>Dan

As NC of net 142 (and IFNA member) with a long history of importation
of echomail long distance and feeding it free to many nodes around my state,
I don't think that I can be accused of not contributing my share to my HOBBY
of computer BBS's. I do not take the hundreds of dollars and many hours of
time
I spend on the net as a business expense. This is a hobby. It is BECAUSE
of people like Vince and Bob of BinkleyTerm that I do it. My 500+ users apprec
it, too.

Sir, what have you done for Fidonet lately?

>  Don't presume Compuserve users are ignorant of alternative services.

Why not? I've personaly talked to several CIS users who know next to nothing
about Fidonet or echomail.


>        How many answers, Maynard, did you get to that query about
>        the Rainbow's video memory? Care to guess how many you would

This is interesting, I'll post it on CIS and we'll see how much better
it does there.



I still have difficulty with CIS making money with messages from a distributio
system that I voluntarily support with my private funds. This is how I feel
about a one way link. Any two way links that you set up, however, I am willing
to hear about. The issue is fairness.

I'll thank you not to do any name calling in your next message.




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* Origin: TeleTalk BBS (203-674-1802)  (1:142/328)
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Date:      10-14-89 (21:20)
Subject:  LAZY DATES
From:      TONY BUSTOS

Those without clock boards may also wish to look into a file called SETNOW.
It stores the date/time in the autoexec.bat timestamp, and is quite a pleasure
to use.

I myself use DAT.COM, which sets the system date to its own timestamp,
which can be set/updated with FDATE.COM... this can be done automatically
by FIDO or OPUS, and used with the internal clock on the USR modem, totally
eliminates any need to adjust the date, unless the modem loses power. Looks
to me like the modem could be run from batteries, which would make the whole
thing bulletproof!

Happy dating!

--- ConfMail V4.00
* Origin: The_BRUNDLE_FLY_Den, Dan Cannon, Redondo_Bch_CA, 213-376-9567,
-HST- (1:102/139)
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Date:      10-14-89 (14:12)
Subject:  RE: OPUS UNDER V3.10B
From:      GARY STEBBINS


FM>Opus is not running very well at all under 3.10b - quite a few
FM>random stoppages, some with "interrupts off".  I think I will
FM>be going back to 3.10.016.

That doesn't sound good.  I was planning on sending my $125 to get the 3.10b,
but if OPUS won't run, I'll save my money.

FM>Anybody else have any experience running Opus under SS 3.10 or
FM>3.10b?

I echo that request.  Is anyone from Suitable Solutions listening?

-gary-

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* Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 (Opus 1:343/3)
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Date:      10-14-89 (14:14)
Subject:  RE: PATCH KIT FOR TURBO-C
From:      GARY STEBBINS


MF> I have uploaded it to the following boards
MF>        Glacier Peak        SyncPoint        Hitch Hiker
MF>        Silver Bullet       Med TechNet      Beach City
MF>        Pot O Gold

And a thank you from Glacier Peak!  It's available for download and File
Request.

-gary-

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* Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 (Opus 1:343/3)
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Date:      10-14-89 (19:13)
Subject:  FOUND TRACTOR FOR DECW4
From:      ERIC SPEARS

I LOCATED A TRACTOR FEED ASSEMBLY FOR THE DECWRITER 4/LA-34.


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* Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 (Opus 1:343/3)
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Date:      10-14-89 (23:09)
Subject:  RE: ALTERNATE CHARACTERS
From:      VAN VANHORN

>  >>  >    "~ EZ-Reader 1.21~"
>  >I would like to know what kind of Rainbow they show up
> on as solid
>  >blocks.  Both the A that I am reading this message with
> now, and the
>  >+ that the BBS runs on (I sometimes read messages from
> the console)
>  >show is as <QUOTE><TILDE><SPACE>EZ-Reader etc.
>
> What you quoted came over as tildes, so you probably have
> someone filtering out hi-bit characters.  "" is a small
> centered box, character 254 on an IBM.  If you strip the
> hi-bit, you get a "~", a tilde. The Rainbow will display
> a reverse question mark normally, but the vfossil maps that
> character to blob (box).
>
I really don't recall if I quoted that original origin line, or if I re-entere
it from my keyboard.  I do know that I have only see tildes, no reverse questi
marks, and no blobs, in the EX-Reader origin line, and am still curious about
why you are seeing something else.  The vfossil most definitely does NOT
map the character to a blob, it shows a tilde.  As I said before, I am normall
reading this echo on Rainbows, or a VT-220 clone, and all I see are tildes.
When I am using a Rainbow, I am using both DECCOMM and VFOS-DEC.  I don't
recall the version numbers, but they would be the latest that have shown
up here.

On the other hand, the "hi-bit" characters are illegal in echo mail origin
lines, so I am sure we can assume we will never see them again, rendering
the entire discussion moot.

+vanhorn+


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* Origin: Horsefeathers + Burn a flag for freedom! + (Opus 1:343/30)
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