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Rainbow Echomail Digest                      OCT 29, 1989

In this issue:
   RE: RAINBOW USERS UNITE!!
   RAINBOW USERS UNITED!!!
   RAINBOW BACKUPS
   DREADED VIRUSES -- OR PER
   RE: OPUS AND MS-DOS V3.10            (4 messages)
   RE: ROW
   RE: HARD DRIVES AND DOS 3
   RE: RAINBOW BASIC
   RE: DREADED VIRUSES -- OR
   RE: LA50 SWITCH SETTINGS
   RE: RE: DEC RAINBOW DISK
   DISKS


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Date:      10-28-89 (12:24)
Subject:  RE: RAINBOW USERS UNITE!!
From:      GEORGE THEALL

DS>What I mean
DS>is that other sysops shouldn't get a bill in the mail from you for DLing co
DS>from Compuserve or USENET (I know tha latter is free).

  I would never do that!

DS>The extra traffic on
DS>the net will be welcomed. If anyone complains about the influx of more info
DS>and helpful hints about the Rainbow.... I may just excommunicate them ! :>


   Ah, just have them say a few "Hail, Mary"s. The Rainbow user community
has been depleted enough already.

George
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Date:      10-28-89 (12:24)
Subject:  RAINBOW USERS UNITED!!!
From:      GEORGE THEALL

DS>It looks a little comfusing at first, but I think ppl get the idea. Any cha
DS>you could make the message FROM: line have the 'real' person's name? That
DS>would be less confusing.

   Not at the moment. The software I'm using doesn't let people change the
"From:" line as that could lead to net forgeries.

George
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Date:      10-28-89 (12:24)
Subject:  RAINBOW BACKUPS
From:      GEORGE THEALL

GR>GT>From: att!cbnewsc!stuart@ucbvax.berkeley.edu  (S. D. Ericson)
GR>GT>Organization: The Sage Hovel, Wheaton, IL
GR>GT>
GR>
GR>George, could you pass on to Him that there is a version of DS-Backup avail
GR>for the dec on rx-50 disks


  Sure will. As long as he reads the digests posted to INFO-DEC-MICRO/
comp.sys.dec.micro he'll see your reply. BTW: Where can one find this
version? From the producers of DS-Backup itself?

George
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Date:      10-28-89 (12:24)
Subject:  DREADED VIRUSES -- OR PER
From:      GEORGE THEALL

DS>Everyone complains about the Rainbow being a 'forgotten' machine when it
DS>comes to software vendors. The good news is that virus vendors forgot about
DS>it too! No viri in the Rainbow world as of yet!


   I seem to recall, back before Phil Katz came out with his file
compression utilities, some diseased programs were passing themselves off
as the lastest version of ARC. I can't remember what sort of damage was
done, but they did affect Rainbows.

   As for viruses which targeted Rainbow-specific software, thanks goodness
I can't think of any!

George
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Date:      10-28-89 (18:41)
Subject:  RE: OPUS AND MS-DOS V3.10
From:      GEORGE THEALL

  While I appreciate your concern for accuracy, Van, I suggest you heed
your own advice and "get it straight" before posting. From a portion of
Gary's message (entered on 10-14-89) we read:

     "That doesn't sound good. I was planning on sending my
     $125 to ***GET*** the 3.10b, but if OPUS won't run,
     I'll save my money"

(emphasis mine). Note, please, that Gary does not say he has a copy of
3.10b, pirated or otherwise.  Nor does he mention that there's a bug in
the software. I forwarded Gary's entire message to Jerry Miller in part
because he might be losing a potential customer.

  That Jerry misunderstood Gary's intent is lamentable. But I suggest that
it is only a misunderstanding on Jerry's part and that, if he were to read
the message more thoroughly, the matter would be cleared up. I'm certainly
glad, Van, that you've taken the time and trouble to set the matter
straight. (Or did you have other intentions in posting your message?)


VV>If you are intent on relaying messages between here and Compu$erve, and Str
VV>consents (as he has,) please get it straight.  Gary had no bug report, Fran
VV>Mallory did.


  Perhaps you would be so kind as to POINT OUT EXACTLY WHAT IS WRONG here.
Indeed, I CHALLENGE YOU to specify which of my previous messages even
mention the words "bug" or "bug report" in the context of MS-DOS v3.10b
and/or Gary Stebbins. Is it in one of my messages posted here? Or in my
correspondence with Jerry Miller?

  I think you owe us an explanation, Van. Either that, or an apology.


George
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Date:      10-27-89 (09:33)
Subject:  RE: ROW
From:      FRANK MALLORY

> I don't have ANY experience with ROW.  What you're looking
> for on the VAX (directory logical RBC$TOOLS) has never
> existed in standard-VMS; probably you need the VAX H-kit
> that goes (not comes) with the PC ROW distribution.

If anybody has the order number for the prerequisite VAX software, please
let me know.

>
> I remember seeing a demo of ROW once; it was advanced
> for its time (it could run a backup-to-the-VAX at a scheduled
> time).  Other than that it's just another ho-hum menu

There's at least one other benefit, as I understand it:  you will be notified
that you have VAXmail or other messages, even when you are working on the
Rainbow.

I see it as mostly of benefit to unsophisticated users, of which we have
a few here.


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* Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Maryland - 301-622-2247 (Opus 1:109/1
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Date:      10-27-89 (09:50)
Subject:  RE: HARD DRIVES AND DOS 3
From:      FRANK MALLORY

You should first buy a copy of Rainbow MS-DOS 3.10 from Suitable Solutions,
Inc.  Then use the WUTIL program to format and set up partition(s) on your
ST-225.

Other versions of DOS 3.10 will not run on the Rainbow.


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* Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Maryland - 301-622-2247 (Opus 1:109/1
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Date:      10-27-89 (10:05)
Subject:  RE: RAINBOW BASIC
From:      FRANK MALLORY

> From: OS360171@wvnvms
>
> Does anyone have a version of basic that runs under msdos
> for the rainbow.

The beta test version of the GWBASIC compiler for the Rainbow is availble
on this board (downloads only).  The compiler is GWB.ZIP, and it's documentati
is GWBDOC.ZIP.


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* Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Maryland - 301-622-2247 (Opus 1:109/1
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Date:      10-27-89 (10:10)
Subject:  RE: DREADED VIRUSES -- OR
From:      FRANK MALLORY

> Everyone complains about the Rainbow being a 'forgotten'
> machine when it comes to software vendors. The good news
> is that virus vendors forgot about it too! No viri in the
> Rainbow world as of yet!

Not true, folks; don't let your guard down!  I had one here about a year
ago, and it gave me fits.

I recommend the use of FLU_SHOT as a minimum; also, running VIRUSCAN
(latest version: SCANV45.ZIP) after each new software installation.


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* Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Maryland - 301-622-2247 (Opus 1:109/1
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Date:      10-27-89 (10:16)
Subject:  RE: OPUS AND MS-DOS V3.10
From:      FRANK MALLORY

>
> And Jerry wishes that Frank would call or write with whatever
> problem there is.  Whether or not Frank has a registered
> copy, Jerry would like to know about any problems in the
> product
>
There were a number of stoppages after I first installed 3.10b, but it has
been working pretty smoothly for the past week or 10 days.  The only problem
occurs at the end of RENUM, when the system stops with a "can't find COMMAND.C
message.  Since I keep COMMAND.COM in memory using COMSPEC and SETRAM, this
probably indicates the RAM occupied by COMMAND.COM is being overwritten by
something in RENUM.
So I have started renumbering as an off-line operation and restarting
manually; no big deal.

And yes, I am a registered owner of 3.10b (also SpeedCache, Code Blue, and
an I-Drive from SS).

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* Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Maryland - 301-622-2247 (Opus 1:109/1
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Date:      10-20-89 (08:11)
Subject:  RE: LA50 SWITCH SETTINGS
From:      RON KRITZMAN

I use my LA-50 on my other machine (AKA "Bozo the Clone") quite nicely.
You will need to close sw1 position 6 to enable "ready/busy" handshaking,
and you may need to close sw1 position (as I did) to invert the ready/busy
signal if it doesn't play.


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* Origin: Chicago's BIT WIZ Opus HST (AlterNet 445/689) (Opus 1:115/689)
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Date:      10-26-89 (19:59)
Subject:  RE: RE: DEC RAINBOW DISK
From:      VAN VANHORN

I stand corrected (twice, yet!) re: Uniform and RX-50 disks.

Regarding upper case, yes, there are some systems that are case sensitive,
but as far as I am aware that is pretty much limited to unix, where upper
case is normally not recognized.  I haven't run into a case where I needed
upper case in several years.  You certainly don't need it to log onto an
OPUS system (where I think you are entering your messages.)

+vanhorn+


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* Origin: Horsefeathers + Burn a flag for freedom! + (Opus 1:343/30)
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Date:      10-26-89 (21:39)
Subject:  RE: OPUS AND MS-DOS V3.10
From:      GARY STEBBINS

George,

Thanks for taking the time to forward my message to Suitable Solutions and
to get the response back to me.  It's much appreciated!

-gary-

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* Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 (Opus 1:343/3)
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Date:      10-27-89 (13:51)
Subject:  RE: OPUS AND MS-DOS V3.10
From:      AMER NELSON

I dunno.  Am I dense?  Why is Jerry bemused?
Isn't it reasonable for a potential customer to ask a question
regarding possible bugs in a product BEFORE purchase?
If you ask before you buy you are obviously not yet a registered
owner.  Just curious.
++ Amer ++


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* Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 (Opus 1:343/3)
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Date:      10-27-89 (13:55)
Subject:  DISKS
From:      FRANK WOOLF

Hi all, what is the average price per disk for Quad densities??

Thanks

Frank Woolf


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* Origin: SYS$OUTPUT BBS * Library, PA * 412-854-0511 * (Opus 1:129/38)
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