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Rainbow EchoMail Digest                     Nov 14, 1989

In this issue:
  RE: KERMIT
  ADVICE ON SELLING A RAINB
  CHIP HELP
  RE: RE: KERMIT
  RE: MSVRB1C - RAINBOW KER      (2 messages)
  COMMUNICATIONS
  BCS MEETING                    (2 messages)
  RE: HD DISKS IN RAINBOW
  OF RAINBOWS AND 386S...
  RE: OF RAINBOWS AND 386S.
  SEDT4-256
  RE: DEC RAINBOW DISK FORS
  RE: ADVICE ON SELLING A R
  RE: OPUS AND MS-DOS V3.10


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Date:     11-11-89 (13:05)
To:       GEORGE THEALL
Subject:  RE: KERMIT
From:     CARL HOUSEMAN

PC-Kermit has handled the printer controller sequences for some time - maybe
since 2.30.  However, there were problems in 2.32 (no suffix) and we've
still seen an occasional problem using VAX WordPerfect and a laser printer
in 2.32/A.  Does anybody have PC Kermit 2.32/B online/downloadable?


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Date:     11-10-89 (21:29)
To:       AMER NELSON
Subject:  ADVICE ON SELLING A RAINB
From:     AL HEALY

Hello, Amer... I am a co-worker of Gary Stebbins', and when I asked for his
advice on selling my Rainbow he suggested I contact you. I understand the
local Rainbow UG meets the 3rd Thursday; I can't attend that because of a
regular meeting I have.

I have a B with 20MB hard disk, 704K, mono graphics.  Is there a way to get
the word out at the users' group without being there?
Thanks...


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* Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 (Opus 1:343/3)

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Date:     11-11-89 (00:41)
To:       ALL
Subject:  CHIP HELP
From:     VAN VANHORN

I am still desparate for information on getting some RS-232 driver chips
for the Rainbow, DEC 26LS32-3, made by National.  I really don't want to
crank into a major phone campaign to find these if any of you know where
to find them.  If you previously entered a message on this subject, please
do so again, as it never made it here.

Any leads or help will be appreciated.

+vanhorn+


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Date:     11-11-89 (10:57)
To:       GEORGE THEALL
Subject:  RE: RE: KERMIT
From:     GARY STEBBINS


GT>  Is this peculiar to Rainbow Kermit or does it happen with PC
GT>Kermit v2.32a as well?

MS-Kermit for IBM-PCs and compatibles handles the printer control sequences
properly.  The code that does this is completely separate from the code that
handles incoming characters for the Rainbow.

-gary-

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Date:     11-11-89 (12:02)
To:       RUDIE SLAUGHTER
Subject:  RE: MSVRB1C - RAINBOW KER
From:     GARY STEBBINS


RS>I been trying out your version MSVRB1C of Kermit 2.32A for the
RS>Rainbow. Although the printer support works, I think you have
RS>installed the transparent printing and echo printing backwards.
RS>
RS>I would appreciate confirmation (or refutation) of this finding
RS>and if confirmed, would appreciate patch instructions to MSVRB1C
RS>to unflip the sequences.

Confirmed.  (Oops)

The following patch should fix it.  A new version, which identifies itself
with the date 11-Nov is now available on Glacier Peak Rainbow.  Sorry for
the inconvenience.

- - - - - -
ren msvrb1c.exe *.dbg
debug msvrb1c.dbg
e cs:8db6 2
w
q
ren msvrb1c.dbg *.exe
- - - - - -

Note that the above patch changes the byte at location cs:8db6 from a 1
to a 2.  You may want to make a copy of the executable before patching it
just in case anything goes wrong.  Also, you may wish to change the identifica
date... but that's a little more difficult.  If you wish to try, here are
the instructions:

While in debug, do an "r" command.  This will display the values of the
registers.  Look at the CS register - now add 1000 to this value and use
it in place of "val" in the following:

d val:1fa4

This should be the location where the date string is stored.  If not, don't
change the data.  If this is the date location, then proceed:

e val:1fa4 '11-Nov'

This will change the date so it identifies itself correctly as containing
the "11-Nov" modification.

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Date:     11-12-89 (00:02)
To:       JOHN LELLIS
Subject:  COMMUNICATIONS
From:     DON MARQUART


> BinkleyTerm offers Zmodem as well as most of the other popular protocols.
> Using either the DECCOMM or PC100.SYS fossil drivers, it runs on the
> Rainbow.  Using OPUS!COM, BNU or X00.SYS fossil drivers, it will run on
I*B
> PCs and clones.  It's a very good package - well worth a look.

Hi John, have not heard of the "PC100.SYS" previously.  Is this a new FOSSIL
for the RB?  Later...



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Date:     11-12-89 (03:39)
To:       DAVE STRICKLER
Subject:  BCS MEETING
From:     PAUL COHEN

Dave,

I hope to meet you at the meeting on Monday night.  Got my BCS application
in the mail.  I wil see you then.


Paul


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Date:     11-12-89
To:       GARY STEBBINS
Subject:  RE: HD DISKS IN RAINBOW
From:     DAVID STRICKLER

In a message of <07 Nov 89 23:45:31>, Gary Stebbins (1:343/3) writes:

GS> DS>I use AT disks on a regualr basis. Most of the box works. Some
GS> DS>don't. Those that don't become AT disks in my VAXmate!
GS>
GS>The Rainbow is designed to use disks with the same coercivity as the

GS>standard IBM diskettes.  The HD disks (1.2MB) have a higher magnetic

GS>coercivity, and the Rainbow RX50 drives aren't designed to write to
GS>these disks.  The write current probably isn't strong enough to
GS>reliably "flip" the magnetic fields in the HD disks. This might make

GS>your data fade with time.  I wouldn't trust using HD disks in my
GS>Rainbow - it won't hurt the Rainbow, but you might find your data
GS>missing at a later time.
GS>
GS>-gary-


Although I agree with your explanation, I have been using those disks (and
other HD disks) for years without a single problem. Perhaps I'm just lucky....


David Strickler
Sysop of 101/45
Midnight DEC (Boston)
(617)739-0708 [Voice]

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Date:     11-12-89
To:       PAUL COHEN
Subject:  BCS MEETING
From:     DAVID STRICKLER

In a message of <12 Nov 89 03:39:16>, Paul Cohen (1:101/45) writes:

PC>Dave,
PC>
PC>I hope to meet you at the meeting on Monday night.  Got my BCS
PC>application in the mail.  I wil see you then.
PC>
PC>
PC>Paul

Glad you got it. All are welcome to come to the meetings, but if you come
on a regular basis (as most users do), we request that you join the BCS.


David Strickler
Sysop of 101/45
Midnight DEC (Boston)
(617)739-0708 [Voice]

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Date:     11-12-89
To:       ALL
Subject:  OF RAINBOWS AND 386S...
From:     DAVID STRICKLER


This may not be the place for this message, and if it isn't, as confeence
co-ordinator, I'll make sure to reprimand myself...

I have a friend who is looking to hook his rainbows (as VT220s) into a 386
machine and run them as dumb tubes. This would require some fancy 386 software
As of yet, I have not found any satisfactory software (PCMOS is NOT satisfacto
that will allow multi-user on a 386 with a VTxxx device. There are quite a
few on the market that require other types of terminals on the other end,
but none that allow VTxxx. I find this very strange, and feel I am looking
under the wrong rock.

Has anyone seen such a beast?

Thanks..



David Strickler
Sysop of 101/45
Midnight DEC (Boston)
(617)739-0708 [Voice]

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Date:     11-12-89 (17:53)
To:       RUDIE SLAUGHTER
Subject:  RE: MSVRB1C - RAINBOW KER
From:     BILL MAYHEW

Pretty close. <smile>
<ESC>[?5i turns on "auto print" mode.  All text subsequently received
is printed *when you move the cursor off the line* using a LF, FF, VT, or
autowrap.  Thus, for example, a "prompt" will not be printed until somebody
types a command on the keyboard and hits return, at which point the prompt
and the command will both be sent to the printer.
<ESC>5i, as you suggest, turns on "printer controller" mode, in which
characters are sent to the printer as-received, without also going to the
screen.
-Bill


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Date:     11-12-89 (18:01)
To:       DAVID STRICKLER
Subject:  RE: OF RAINBOWS AND 386S.
From:     BILL MAYHEW

Some UNIX derivative should be fine, as they mostly come with "termcap"
which lets you 'teach' the system about most ANY kind of terminal.
Oh, you don't want UNIX, eh? ;-}


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Date:     11-12-89 (20:12)
To:       FRANK MALLORY
Subject:  SEDT4-256
From:     JACK JONES

Hi Frank
a long time ago I inquired if someone was able to install the new Keys
on the Rainbow for Sedt ver4 (256).
I rename the key-files and help files as the manual says but the F key
and all the numberkey-pad does not work at all.
I saw in a message that you were able to install it properly and I am wonderin
what am I doing wrong. Maybe the key file that I picked up is corrupted.
Any Clue as to where you got yours?
I have been a SEDT user for a long time and truthfully there is nothing
wrong with the edition I am using now..but I don't want to miss anything
new either.
Thanks for any help.
Jack Jones


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Date:     11-12-89 (18:14)
To:       JIM BORCHARD
Subject:  RE: DEC RAINBOW DISK FORS
From:     DON MARQUART

>> Uniform supports both the CP/M and MS-DOS formats for the Rainbow.  You
>> must have the required drives installed in the system before the various
>> menu selections will appear on the selection menu. Just got the recent
>> upgrade to v2.16 and believe that there are 13 menus available if you
>> have all drive types installed.

> Hardware = IDRIVES, DEC ?  Vendor ?  Cost ?  Thanx, jim

Please be a little more verbose, seems I have lost the thread here.  Thought
we were talking about supporting the RB via an IBM compatible with Uniform.

Later...



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Date:     11-11-89 (18:07)
To:       AL HEALY
Subject:  RE: ADVICE ON SELLING A R
From:     BOB FULLER

Al,

I'm interested in your Rainbow.  You can reach me at 743-3617

Bob

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Date:     11-12-89 (14:05)
To:       JIM BORCHARD
Subject:  RE: OPUS AND MS-DOS V3.10
From:     VAN VANHORN

Jim,

OPUS will NOT run under CODE BLUE, nor will any other communications software.
I have no experience with OPUS EXPRESS, which is a PC product, but I would
assume it will not.

OPUS has no need of CODE BLUE, runs just fine here under SS-MS-DOS 3.10.
The only thing on the BBS that I use Code Blue for is QMAIL, which handles
the mail packets coming in and out.

+vanhorn+


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