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Rainbow EchoMail Digest                     Nov 17, 1989

In this issue:
  RE: MSVRB1C - RAINBOW KER      (2 messages)
  RE: PC KERMIT 2.32/B           (3 messages)
  CAD
  SCSI
  OF RAINBOWS AND 386S...
  STIFFS
  RE: RAINBOW GRAPHICS BOAR


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Date:     11-15-89 (09:04)
To:       GARY STEBBINS
Subject:  RE: MSVRB1C - RAINBOW KER
From:     RUDIE SLAUGHTER

Thanks for the patch to MSVRB1C regarding host printer controller escape seque
<ESC>[5i and <ESC>[?51, being swapped.  Your instructions were very clear
and the patch, including the revision date, worked fine - first time.

Noticed some confusion in other messages regarding printer support in Kermit
232/A.  There is no problem with controlling an attached printer using the
<Print Screen> key and local commands.  There is a problem with the remote
computer (what you use your Rainbow to connect to, in my case, a VAX cluster)
controlling your printer from the other end of the communications link.
That problem is what Gary Stebbins is/has corrected with his Nov. 11 version
of MSVRB1C.

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Date:     11-15-89 (11:26)
To:       CARL HOUSEMAN
Subject:  RE: PC KERMIT 2.32/B
From:     FRANK MALLORY

> I got the ` key to send \27 (esc) with Rainbow MS-Kermit
> 2.32/A by entering:
>     Kermit-MS> SET KEY \96 \27
>
Tried it, but it doesn't seem to work by itself.  Don't you have to give
a SET ESCAPE command to go with it?

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Date:     11-15-89
To:       RUDIE SLAUGHTER
Subject:  RE: MSVRB1C - RAINBOW KER
From:     FRANK MALLORY

RS> Noticed some confusion in other messages regarding printer support in
RS> Kermit 232/A.  There is no problem with controlling an attached printer
RS> using the <Print Screen> key and local commands.  There is a problem
RS> with the remote computer (what you use your Rainbow to connect to, in
RS> my case, a VAX cluster) controlling your printer from the other end of
RS> the communications link.  That problem is what Gary Stebbins is/has
RS> corrected with his Nov. 11 version of MSVRB1C.

I'm still confused, but please don't try to clarify it any further!  I assume
the people who needed that solution know what the problem is.

Let me ask you another question, somewhat related.  How does one print out
on the Rainbow's LA50, a ReGIS image that is generated on an attached VAX?

I brought up Rainbow ReGIS, then used Kermit 2.32/A to connect to my VAX,
invoked a Datatrieve procedure that displayed a ReGIS image (which appeared
fine on my Rainbow's screen), then tried to print it out on my LA50 by punchin
F2.  Nothing happened, even tho as you pointed out, I have no problem printing
ordinary text screens using the same procedure when not in graphics mode.


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Date:     11-14-89 (12:02)
To:       DAVID STRICKLER
Subject:  CAD
From:     AMER NELSON

I think the message I got may have read --
Insufficient memory to run ZALLOC
Not that the exact wording matters that much -- you get the
drift.
Thanks for all your efforts re the Rainbow Echo -- how else could
I get my nit-picky questions answered?
++ Amer ++


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* Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 (Opus 1:343/3)

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Date:     11-14-89 (12:15)
To:       ** ALL **
Subject:  SCSI
From:     GEOFF REED


I remember reading in a DEC publication listing 3rd party hardware
options for the rainbow, about a Scsi Host adaptor for the rainbow, I am
very interested in locating the name of the company selling these as I have
access to test cd-rom equipment set up to run on a Scsi bus, and also Scsi
harddrives...


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* Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 (Opus 1:343/3)

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Date:     11-14-89 (21:46)
To:       DAVID STRICKLER
Subject:  OF RAINBOWS AND 386S...
From:     DON MARQUART


> I have a friend who is looking to hook his rainbows (as VT220s) into a 386
> machine and run them as dumb tubes. This would require some fancy 386
> software. As of yet, I have not found any satisfactory software (PCMOS is
> NOT satisfactory) that will allow multi-user on a 386 with a VTxxx device.
> There are quite a few on the market that require other types of terminals
> on the other end, but none that allow VTxxx. I find this very strange, and
> feel I am looking under the wrong rock.
>
> Has anyone seen such a beast?

Dave, take a look at both SCO Zenix 386 and DRI Concurrent DOS.  Of the two
the SCO would probably better support what you want to do.  Just got a copy
of it from SCO to play with but have not had a chance to do so yet.

Drop me a line if I can be of any help...



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Date:     11-14-89 (09:40)
To:       GEORGE THEALL
Subject:  STIFFS
From:     MARK BORNSTEIN

In a message of <12 Nov 89 17:39:00>, GEORGE THEALL (1:273/203) writes:

>MB>I sold a copy for
>MB>20 bucks to Geoff Reed in Washington. (not DC). He stiffed me for the
>20 bucks MB>so if he agrees to sell it to you make sure you get the product
>first before paying him.

>   Ouch! I had the same thing happen a while back - some fellow down in
>Georgia wanted the technical docs. I saw "Sure, just send me a cheque to
>cover shipping once they arrive". That was back in August and I'm still
>waiting for the cheque. Hey, maybe it's the US mail???

Actually, it is really a shame. I found that the DEC people were
the most fanstastic group of customers which any business could have asked
for. I had about 5,000 customers in my career as a Dec consultant, reseller
of Rainbow/Vax hardware, software. I never asked for COD and always trusted
the DEC people to send checks. Of those 5000 customers, 4998 NEVER failed
to be honorable. An incredible group of very fine people, many of whom still
call for advice and to say hello.
Geoff Reed and one Arvid Ek were they only ones who ever cheated me. Those
2 were the only ones who failed to pay me. Both, without honor.
...mark


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Date:     11-14-89 (10:16)
To:       GEORGE THEALL
Subject:  RE: RAINBOW GRAPHICS BOAR
From:     MARK BORNSTEIN

In a message of <12 Nov 89 17:39:00>, GEORGE THEALL (1:273/203) writes:

>JB>>........, the Rainbow Graphics Option, .......................
>JB>Have Rainbow+, do  you know where i could get the above board?

>  In the latest issue of _Rainbow News_, Suitable Solutions was
>advertising refurbished ones for $175 I believe. I'm not sure how this
>price compares with other second-hand sources.

Jim Greely has a few for 95 bucks I believe. Creative Consulting
617-769-9811. He also has systems with 10 meg hard disks for about $425.
...mark

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Date:     11-16-89 (00:38)
To:       FRANK MALLORY
Subject:  RE: PC KERMIT 2.32/B
From:     CARL HOUSEMAN

I'm confused:  what do you want RB Kermit to do?  (pick one)

A. Send the character whose ASCII value is 27 decimal to the host
computer when the "`" key is pressed?
B. Act as though you pressed Ctrl-] when the "`" key is pressed?

(A) is what I described in the previous message.  If you follow the directions
I gave, log on to the VAX, and at the $ prompt press "`" TWICE, you should
receive the message "Invalid escape sequence". However, I don't know why
you'd want to send escape characters to the VAX; the only application that
still needs them is TECO.

(B) is what SET ESCAPE is for.  If you enter:
Kermit-MS> SET ESCAPE ?
you'll see that the help message requests a control key for Kermit's escape
FUNCTION.  So Kermit rejects any attempt to put the escape function on a
printable key.  There doesn't appear to be any way around it.


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Date:     11-16-89 (00:59)
To:       FRANK MALLORY
Subject:  RE: PC KERMIT 2.32/B
From:     CARL HOUSEMAN

Addendum to previous message - you can put the Kermit escape function on
the ` key.

However, the escape function must be assigned to some control-key.  If
you take the default of ctrl-], then
Kermit-MS> SET KEY \96 \29
will cause ` to act the same as if you pressed ctrl-], and ctrl-] will
continue to work, too.


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