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#322
From: George A. Theall
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1989 23:43
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Rainbow EchoMail Digest                     Nov 18, 1989

In this issue:
  COMMUNICATIONS
  OF RAINBOWS AND 386S...
  RE:HOW TO PRINT REGIS SCR
  RE: OF RAINBOWS AND 386S.
  RE: PC KERMIT 2.32/B           (2 messages)
  RE: REGIS PRINTOUTS ON AN      (3 messages)


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Date:     11-15-89
To:       DON MARQUART
Subject:  COMMUNICATIONS
From:     JOHN LELLIS

In a message of <12 Nov 89 00:02:01>, Don Marquart (1:104/888) writes:

>Hi John, have not heard of the "PC100.SYS" previously.  Is this a new
>FOSSIL for the RB?  Later...

Yes, PC100.SYS is a FOSSIL driver I wrote which supports both the AUX and
PRN ports on the Rainbow.  It is still in beta-test, but currently in a state
of suspended animation due to my other committments.  If you would like to
join the beta-test team, send me netmail and you will receive the next iterati

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Date:     11-15-89
To:       DAVID STRICKLER
Subject:  OF RAINBOWS AND 386S...
From:     JOHN LELLIS

In a message of <12 Nov 89 12:12:12>, David Strickler (1:101/45) writes:
>I have a friend who is looking to hook his rainbows (as VT220s) into a
>386 machine and run them as dumb tubes. This would require some fancy 386
>software. As of yet, I have not found any satisfactory software (PCMOS is
>NOT satisfactory) that will allow multi-user on a 386 with a VTxxx
>device. There are quite a few on the market that require other types of
>terminals on the other end, but none that allow VTxxx. I find this very
>strange, and feel I am looking under the wrong rock.
>
>Has anyone seen such a beast?

You might try VMIX.  It supports VT100s and purports to run on the 386 (though
I have personally only seen it run on 286 machines).  Not exactly a transparen
DOS window, but it did seem functional last time I looked at it.


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Date:     11-16-89
To:       FRANK MALLORY
Subject:  RE:HOW TO PRINT REGIS SCR
From:     ART MCCLINTON

The only way that I have been able to print REGIS screens on the attached
LA50 is to have the program issue the REGIS print screen command.  I normally
code the program so that a P issues a print screen.
I however do not know datatrieve.

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Date:     11-16-89 (22:02)
To:       DAVID STRICKLER
Subject:  RE: OF RAINBOWS AND 386S.
From:     DAVID HUGHES

Unix (SCO XENIX) will handle this.

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Date:     11-16-89 (07:47)
To:       CARL HOUSEMAN
Subject:  RE: PC KERMIT 2.32/B
From:     FRANK MALLORY


>   B. Act as though you pressed Ctrl-] when the "`" key
> is pressed?

B. above.  We were able to do that with Kermit 2.29 and earlier, and
I was hoping the 2.32/A would restore that capability.  From what you say,
I take it that the answer is "no".


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* Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Maryland - 301-622-2247 (Opus 1:109/1

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Date:     11-16-89 (07:54)
To:       CARL HOUSEMAN
Subject:  RE: PC KERMIT 2.32/B
From:     FRANK MALLORY

> control-key.  If you take the default of ctrl-], then
>      Kermit-MS> SET KEY \96 \29
> will cause ` to act the same as if you pressed ctrl-],
> and ctrl-] will continue to work, too.

Thanks, Carl.  That's exactly what I wanted.

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* Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Maryland - 301-622-2247 (Opus 1:109/1

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Date:     11-17-89 (10:20)
To:       FRANK MALLORY
Subject:  RE: REGIS PRINTOUTS ON AN
From:     RUDIE SLAUGHTER

You asked about printing REGIS screen displays out on an attached LA50 printer
(REGIS screen generated by VAX Datatrieve).  I've never tried this.  Maybe
someone else can help.  However, I have some general observations concerning
graphics support.

In general, terminal emulators do not specifically support graphics. In partic
I don't think MS-Kermit supports REGIS graphics.  When you separately invoke
the Rainbow REGIS program, you enable the Rainbow to switch to the graphics
display mode upon receipt of an appropriate escape sequence.  And from my
understanding of the Rainbow REGIS program, it will also (if properly installe
support graphics output to the printer upon receipt of the appropriate escage
sequence - however, I don't know what that sequence is.  Have you been able
to send REGIS output to the printer using any other terminal program (such
as Poly-TRM)? If so, it sounds like Kermit is interfering with the escape
sequences and traps or filters them before they get to the REGIS package.

I think that pressing F2 while in Kermit merely reads the text screen memory
and sends that to the attached printer.  Thus pressing F2 won't do any good
if what you want to copy to the printer is the graphics screen memory.

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Date:     11-17-89 (12:52)
To:       RUDIE SLAUGHTER
Subject:  RE: REGIS PRINTOUTS ON AN
From:     FRANK MALLORY

>  Have you been able to send REGIS output to the printer
> using any other terminal program (such as Poly-TRM)? If
> so, it sounds like Kermit is interfering with the escape
> sequences and traps or filters them before they get to
> the REGIS package.
I have poly-TRM but haven't used it because I prefer Kermit.  I would guess
that poly-TRM would do it, tho.

MS-Kermit has various modes, like IBM and Tektronics.  Seems like there should
be a ReGIS mode in there somewhere.


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Date:     11-17-89 (13:35)
To:       FRANK MALLORY
Subject:  RE: REGIS PRINTOUTS ON AN
From:     RUDIE SLAUGHTER

I've know tried REGIS and Kermit together - no problem with printouts.
Here's what I did.

Start REGIS from MS-DOS.
Start KERMIT (the Nov.11 version of MSVRB1C)
Connect and sign onto the VAX
Enter SET TERM/REGIS to tell the VAX I've got REGIS
Enter an application that supports REGIS (in my case, an Allin1 version)
Tell the application to route the REGIS output to the terminal printer
And it did - no problems

I captured the terminal session and am uploading the graphics file to your
board - filename: YENGRAPH.RGS.  Turn on REGIS, enter TYPE YENGRAPH.RGS at
the DOS prompt.  You should first get a graph on the screen and then the
screen will be printed (by REGIS) on your attached printer.

I don't use DATATRIEVE.  Have you tried the PLOT HARDCOPY command to tell
it to route the graphics output to your printer?  The key is that I don't
think you can tell Kermit (or REGIS) to dump the graphics screen to the printe
you have to make the remote application dump the graphics output to your
terminal printer.


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