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Rainbow EchoMail Digest                     Nov 25, 1989

In this issue:
  COMMUNICATIONS
  PRO 350                        (2 messages)
  OF CROOKS AND THINGS
  .....
  YES -- ENOUGH ALREADY


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Date:     11-21-89 (09:12)
To:       JOHN LELLIS
Subject:  COMMUNICATIONS
From:     DON MARQUART


> Yes, PC100.SYS is a FOSSIL driver I wrote which supports both the AUX and
> PRN ports on the Rainbow.  It is still in beta-test, but currently in a
> state of suspended animation due to my other committments.  If you would
> like to join the beta-test team, send me netmail and you will receive the
> next iteration.

Sounds great John but at the current time I don't have a RB to test with.
I follow the echo very close and am very interested in any new software
for the 'bow.  Still do whatever I can to support it on the BBS.  Knowing
me I'll get another machine in the future:-).

Thanks for the reply...



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Date:     11-22-89 (17:52)
To:       GEORGE THEALL
Subject:  PRO 350
From:     AMER NELSON

Having read some of my prior messages, you've probably figured out
that I'm strictly a novice when it comes to communications, E-Mail
and the like.  I just call my local OPUS board and fumble around.
I am very interested in the message you posted from John Meneghini
at Clearpoint who has a PRO350 for sale -- in fact I think there
are a couple of others in the area who are interested -- they,
however, have been involved in the Boeing strike and may be short
of cash right now.  Anyway, I AM interested and would like to know:
1.)  Which version of P/OS?
2.)  What are the programming tools and applications?
Could you pass this along to John?
My address is       12030 - 36th Avenue, N.E.
Seattle, WA  98125-5637
phone is       (206)365-5795
Thanks!
(Of course someone may have already contacted John directly.)


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* Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 (Opus 1:343/3)

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Date:     11-22-89 (10:36)
To:       GEOFF REED
Subject:  OF CROOKS AND THINGS
From:     MARK BORNSTEIN

In a message of <20 Nov 89 20:06:48>, Geoff Reed (1:343/3) writes:
>  Mr. Bournstein, I fealt that your latest rash of attacks upon me
>deserved at least 1 reply from me.  I purchased the disk from you a few
>years ago, shortly after receipt of the disk I sent a money order made
>out to mark bornstein to the address you gave on your invoice, which you
>CLAIM you never recieved. According to my banks records the money order
>was cashed.

You are a liar. Plain and simple. All you had to do was send me a
photostat of the check which you say was cashed. IT WAS NOT EVER RECEIVED
NOR CASHED. JUST SEND ME A PHOTO OF THE CHECK WITH MY SIGNATURE AND I WILL
APOLOGIZE TO YOU IN THE NEXT 100 MESSAGES. But you can't do that because you
never sent it.

You have yet to be reasonable about this, you have yet to
>send a second invoice to me if in fact you never recieved payment.
> You refuse to follow Proper buisness procedures about this, and have
>instead resorted to slandering me nationwide in this public forum.
> You are not making a good impression on potential customers out here,
>what if they sent you a payment, and it disappeared? would you attempt to
>smear their name nationwide?

You received about 3 invoices and about 4 fone calls, all of which
your mother answered and told me she gave you the message.
> There is a possibility that you never received the money-order, I
>am willing to admit that (for the moment) but there is also the
>possibility that you did recieve the M-O and are trying to bilk me out of
>a lousy
>$20.  I had thought of just sending you another $20 but your latest
>attack in which this is a response to proves to me that you are acting
>juvinile enough that you would just slander me more if I gave in to your
>juvinile games.

Ya...sure you were gonna send the 23 buks.  Only a few years after
you got the product.
...mark

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Date:     11-22-89
To:       GEOFF REED
Subject:  .....
From:     MARK BUDA

In a message of <20 Nov 89 20:06:48>, Geoff Reed (1:343/3) writes:
>   Mr. Bournstein, I fealt that your latest rash of attacks upon me
> deserved at least 1 reply from me.  I purchased the disk from you a few
> years ago, shortly after receipt of the disk I sent a money order made
> out to mark bornstein to the address you gave on your invoice, which
> you CLAIM you never recieved. According to my banks records the money

...
>  There is a possibility that you never received the money-order, I
> am willing to admit that (for the moment) but there is also the
> possibility that you did recieve the M-O and are trying to bilk me out

> of a lousy
> $20.  I had thought of just sending you another $20 but your latest
> attack in which this is a response to proves to me that you are acting
> juvinile enough that you would just slander me more if I gave in to
> your juvinile games.

Knowing Mark, I doubt he bilked you.  I suggest that you produce a COPY of
the 'cashed' MO from the bank and ship it to Mark.  The bank will give you
a copy at no charge.  Send the copy to Mark.  It seems VERY strange that you
would not respond to him until now.  What are YOU hiding?  Why do you not
want to pay the bill?

It seems mighty  strange that you come out of the woodwork, a LONG time after
the problem.  I know Mark has mentioned it many times in this echo and I have
heard him say it other times also.

Knowing how much Mark needs the $20, I am sure he is GOING OUT OF HIS WAY
to bilk someone who he does not know.  Its the principle of the thing...
At this point in time, it is up to YOU to prove that the money order was
cashed by Mark (or cashed by anyone).

- mark


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Date:     11-24-89 (22:31)
To:       MARK BORNSTEIN
Subject:  YES -- ENOUGH ALREADY
From:     GEORGE THEALL

MB>In a message of <20 Nov 89 20:06:48>, Geoff Reed (1:343/3) writes:
MB>
MB>>  Mr. Bournstein, I fealt that your latest rash of attacks upon me
MB>>deserved at least 1 reply from me.
...
MB>You are a liar. Plain and simple.

  Is all this really necessary? Can't the two of you resolve it privately
or, barring that, drop the matter?

  I don't really care whether Geoff is honest or a deadbeat in his
financial dealings. But I do care, Mark, that your flames at him are
likely to drive away a member of the Rainbow community who, in the 2
months that I've had access to this Echo, has contributed significantly
IMHO to the Rainbow community with his posts on PC disk formats and
MSGED.

  Must your bitterness so rule your participation here that your efforts
are dedicated to attacking Geoff and those who support him in some
fashion? Please, think about what you hope to gain by this strategy. And
consider as well how this flamefest reflects on you, both as a person and
as a (former, perhaps) business owner.

  As for you, Geoff, I encourage you to send Mark *** privately ***
whatever proof you have that you paid him. For a small fee I imagine you
can request a xerox of the cancelled money order you spoke of. This would
include the signature of whoever cashed/deposited it and be a good first
step in resolving the matter.

George
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Date: 11-24-89 (23:51)           Number: 74              The Satalink BBS
  To: AMER NELSON                Refer#: 563
From: GEORGE THEALL                Read: YES
Subj: PRO 350                      Conf: (74) fRAINBOW
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AN>Having read some of my prior messages, you've probably figured out
AN>that I'm strictly a novice when it comes to communications, E-Mail
AN>and the like.  I just call my local OPUS board and fumble around.

  Is this Amer Nelson talking here??? :-) :-) :-)

AN>I am very interested in the message you posted from John Meneghini
AN>at Clearpoint who has a PRO350 for sale
...
AN>Anyway, I AM interested and would like to know:
AN>1.)  Which version of P/OS?
AN>2.)  What are the programming tools and applications?
AN>Could you pass this along to John?

  Yep, it'll be gatewayed tomorrow morning. (It's already way past
beddie-bye time for me.)  All he has to do is look thru
comp.sys.dec.micro.

AN>(Of course someone may have already contacted John directly.)

   True, but somehow I don't think Pros are still the hot items they
once were.

George
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