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Rainbow EchoMail Digest                         Aug 23, 1990

In this issue:
  RE: EXTENDED MEMORY ON A       (2 messages)
  RE: DESKJET AND WORDPERFE
  RE: BBS RUNNING ON A RAIN
  RE: WP FOR DEC RAINBOW
  RE: CACHE PROGRAM
  RE: WINDOWS 3.0
  RE: MORE INFO ON MY NEW '      (2 messages)


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Date:     08-20-90 (06:50)
To:       GEORGE THEALL
Subject:  RE: EXTENDED MEMORY ON A
From:     DAVID MAROUN

I refer you to page 206 of the CP/M-86-80 version 2.0 User's Guide and
to page 156 of the MS-DOS version 2.05 User's Guide.  Both say, "a
megabyte is equal to a million characters."  This terminology agrees
with the Winchester utility program supplied with DEC's 10-megabyte
hard disk, and with the description of that disk as '10 megabytes'.
According to you, that way of speaking should have resulted in a
lawsuit.  Has Digital Equipment Corporation been sued over its
documentation for the Rainbow?   Not as far as I know.
I point out also that 'megahertz' (MHz) is ALWAYS interpreted as a
million cycles per second.

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 * Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431
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Date:     08-20-90 (09:08)
To:       GEORGE THEALL
Subject:  RE: DESKJET AND WORDPERFE
From:     ANDREW TAYLOR

Assuming we are talking about Wordperfect 4.2 on the Rainbow:

It's very non-intuitive BUT, if you want to install a Wordperfect
printer definition to print from the Printer port on the Rainbow, then
(when going through the Select Printer Menu accessed from the
"PRINT" key) the correct selection for where to print is "LPT 1",
the default selection.

I presume (though haven't tried it) that if you had a printer
connected to the COM port then you would select COM 1 as your
destination.

The other tricky thing about installing printers is that, to see
additional printer definitions on a floppy disk, you have to press
SHIFT-NEXT SCREEN.  WP then prompts you to insert the floppy with the
definitions.

Andrew Taylor


- --- Opus-CBCS 1.12
 * Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431
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Date:     08-21-90 (21:35)
To:       MARK FISCHER
Subject:  RE: BBS RUNNING ON A RAIN
From:     JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS

** Quoting Mark Fischer to Jean-Claude Demars **
 >Well by the time you read this it is past your deadline but
 >anyway here goes:
** End of Quote **

Well, I set it up on one of the office PC's, but as this means i no
longer have a PC on my desk, I still would like to get it work on the
Rainbow.

Tell ya what i have...

  Rainbow computer with 2 floppys, 10 meg HD, and of course, KYBD and
monitor.

My problems...
  I can get OPUS (although i have never used it) on IBM diskette, and
i do have Rainbow MS-DOS 2.11 for the system, but that's it.  Tell me
what i need to get all this working (i have the modem, but no
communications osftware for the rainbow).  Any ideas??  I no longer
have the short deadline that i did.


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 * Origin: Den Net  (1:130/35)
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Date:     08-22-90 (02:40)
To:       DONALD PHILLIPSON
Subject:  RE: WP FOR DEC RAINBOW
From:     PAUL ROBINSON

A "markup" language is one where you put codes in a document and the
program then uses the codes to generate the finished output.  RUNOFF
is a good example of a "markup."


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 * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md - 301-622-2247
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Date:     08-22-90 (02:42)
To:       CARL HOUSEMAN
Subject:  RE: CACHE PROGRAM
From:     PAUL ROBINSON

Any contract - such as a software license - ends if either of the
parties 'dies.'  Dissolution of a corporation in a bankruptcy
constitutes the 'death' of that organization.  Therefore a contract
with a defunct entity is no longer enforceable.


- --- Opus-CBCS 1.12
 * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md - 301-622-2247
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Date:     08-22-90 (03:54)
To:       FRANK MALLORY
Subject:  RE: WINDOWS 3.0
From:     BILL MAYHEW

> Is it anticipated that v3.0 will be usable on a non-Turbow Rainbow?

 Depends on your definition of "usable", Frank.  If you're into lots of
 long coffee breaks, yes.  If you want to accomplish something productive,
 probably not.  (Above is based on hearsay, but is eminently believable.)


- --- QM v1.00
 * Origin: Still Servicing the Rainbow - Maybee Forever (1:101/1.0)
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Date:     08-22-90 (08:21)
To:       FRANK MALLORY
Subject:  RE: MORE INFO ON MY NEW '
From:     CHRISTOPHER WROTEN

You misunderstood my question.  I'm trying to make sure
 my two graphic boards work, not the potentially swapped
 memory board.  I need some way to *know* that the graphic
 boards work as they are supposed to, before I consider
 swapping one of them for the memory adaptor board.


- --- QM v1.00
 * Origin: Still Servicing the Rainbow - Maybee Forever (1:101/1.0)
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Date:     08-23-90 (08:15)
To:       DAVID MAROUN
Subject:  RE: EXTENDED MEMORY ON A
From:     GEORGE THEALL

DM>I refer you to page 206 of the CP/M-86-80 version 2.0 User's Guide and
DM>to page 156 of the MS-DOS version 2.05 User's Guide.  Both say, "a
DM>megabyte is equal to a million characters."

   Your references are a bit outdated, me thinks.

DM>This terminology agrees
DM>with the Winchester utility program supplied with DEC's 10-megabyte
DM>hard disk, and with the description of that disk as '10 megabytes'.

   Tell you what, David. Run CHKDSK on that 10-megabyte hard disk.
Does it report 10,000,000 or 10,485,760 bytes of total disk space? [If
you don't have a 10MB drive, than any hard disk will do.] I'm anxious
to hear the results.

   Or what about that RAMBOW board from Suitable Solutions you asked
about earlier? You said it has "a full megabyte of memory". Care to
calculate for us how many bytes it has? Or just tell us how many chips
it contains and what the capacity of each is (ie, are they 256Kbit
chips?).

DM>According to you, that way of speaking should have resulted in a
DM>lawsuit.  Has Digital Equipment Corporation been sued over its
DM>documentation for the Rainbow?   Not as far as I know.

   Before we talk about actual lawsuits, let's first figure out
whether DEC was oversimplifying when it wrote the manuals you quote
above, or whether it indeed was marketing its products using that
interpretation of "mega". Ok?

   BTW: I'm not suggesting DEC be sued for its documentation but
rather for (possibly) misleading advertising.


George
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Date:     08-23-90 (08:35)
To:       CHRISTOPHER WROTEN
Subject:  RE: MORE INFO ON MY NEW '
From:     GEORGE THEALL

CW> I need some way to *know* that the graphic
CW> boards work as they are supposed to, before I consider
CW> swapping one of them for the memory adaptor board.

   Did you try SCRAM? Besides giving your graphics board a workout, it
is a fairly interesting game.

   You might also look into Jim O'Brien's popular JOBSDUMP, which
dumps graphics screen images to a file. Check out your local board or
grab it from the INFO-DEC-MICRO file archives.

George
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