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Rainbow EchoMail Digest                         Aug 25, 1990

In this issue:
  RE: MORE INFO ON MY NEW '      (2 messages)
  RE: DEC MONITOR INQUIRY
  RE: CACHE PROGRAM              (2 messages)
  TRANSLATION                    (2 messages)
  RAINBOW HARD DISK CLUSTER
  RE: WINDOWS 3.0
  DEC & LAWSUITS


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Date:     08-23-90 (07:08)
To:       CHRISTOPHER WROTEN
Subject:  RE: MORE INFO ON MY NEW '
From:     DON MARQUART


 > If it works out, yes, a trade for the graphics board
 > would be ok.  But first, I want to make sure that both
 > of them work.  Any idea how I can prove they both work?

I'm not really worried about the graphics boards working as I have
only seen one that was broken in the past and the owner probably broke
it:-).

The trade was meant more to help you get setup and running as cheaply
as possible than for the trade.

If you need the memory adapter just forward your address and I'll be
happy to send you the board.  Send the graphics board whenever you are
confortable.

Later...

PS;  Just checked the back messages and found your address, will go
ahead and      ship the adapter soon.


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 * Origin: Club Micro * CompuMatch (303)973-8578 (1:104/888)
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Date:     08-22-90 (07:36)
To:       DON MARQUART
Subject:  RE: DEC MONITOR INQUIRY
From:     DAVID HEID

I will let you know shortly. I personally looked at the new Monitor
and (I opened the box) it has several heatshrinked manuals and stuff
in the box as well as a power cable. As far as I could tell the box
had never been opened as everything was still 'squeaky clean' :-)


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 * Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431
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Date:     08-24-90 (01:17)
To:       BILL MAYHEW
Subject:  RE: CACHE PROGRAM
From:     CARL HOUSEMAN

Gack!  IANAL????  Is this a new standard conferencing abbreviation?
 ITMAMBIGI.   (It took me a moment but I got it).

 What we need in this country is some precedent setting case that
passes ownership of the software to the licensees in the event that
the licensor stops selling new licenses.  But this probably won't
happen until the consumer protection groups attack the software
business.


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 * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md - 301-622-2247
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Date:     08-24-90 (01:49)
To:       ALL
Subject:  TRANSLATION
From:     JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS

How do i write a file from the IBM PC to the rainbow??  I have a copy
of rainbow MS-DOS that i would like to try to set up a BBS in.  I
don't know the rainbow at all nor do i know what model it is except to
say that it has an original equipemnt 10 meg (full height) drive made
by Seagaet (st-412 i think).


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 * Origin: The Moose's Den2 (HST/V.32)  (1:130/35)
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Date:     08-22-90 (18:28)
To:       JOHN CONNOLLY
Subject:  RAINBOW HARD DISK CLUSTER
From:     FRANK MALLORY

 JC> Can anyone recommend a program and/or procedure for changing the
 JC> cluster size (presently 2k) on a non-system disk partition?  I waste
 JC> quite a bit of space on *.MSG BBS files that are typically less than
 JC> 1k.

It's a function of DOS, and I don't think there is any way to change
it on the  Rainbow.

The best solution would be BBS software that maintains messages in a
database  rather than as separate files.


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 * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md. - 301-622-2247
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Date:     08-22-90 (18:36)
To:       BILL MAYHEW
Subject:  RE: WINDOWS 3.0
From:     FRANK MALLORY

BM>> Is it anticipated that v3.0 will be usable on a non-Turbow Rainbow?
BM>
BM>Depends on your definition of "usable", Frank.  If you're into lots of
BM>long coffee breaks, yes.  If you want to accomplish something productive,
BM>probably not.  (Above is based on hearsay, but is eminently believable.)

The only use I have for it at this point is to allow me to run a
decent DTP  program (e.g., Ventura Publisher or Aldus Pagemaker) on my
Rainbow.  What do  you think?


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 * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md. - 301-622-2247
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Date:     08-22-90 (18:42)
To:       CHRISTOPHER WROTEN
Subject:  RE: MORE INFO ON MY NEW '
From:     FRANK MALLORY

 CW> You misunderstood my question.  I'm trying to make sure
 CW> my two graphic boards work, not the potentially swapped
 CW> memory board.  I need some way to *know* that the graphic
 CW> boards work as they are supposed to, before I consider
 CW> swapping one of them for the memory adaptor board.

That's easier.  Just plug each in and run one of the many ReGIS
graphics  programs (e.g., SCRAM) that is available for the Rainbow.
There's a pretty  good graphics demo program here (GALLRY11.ZIP) that
could be used, also.


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 * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md. - 301-622-2247
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Date:     08-23-90 (00:18)
To:       PAUL ROBINSON
Subject:  RE: CACHE PROGRAM
From:     CARL HOUSEMAN

re: Any contract ... ends if either of the parties 'dies.'

 I sure hope you have a law degree!  What you've said, is that if a
company goes bankrupt, that any agreed to software license is null &
void.  You didn't say it explicitly, but I'd infer then, that copying
and distribution of the software, formerly restricted by license, is
no longer restricted.  Agreed?

 Now, what about companies that don't file chapter 11 - instead they
just stop manufacturing or selling licenses for the software.  The
party issuing the license may not have 'died,' but they are for all
intents and purposes, dead from the customer's point of view.  Any
legal opinion?


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 * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md - 301-622-2247
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Date:     08-24-90 (07:36)
To:       GEORGE THEALL
Subject:  DEC & LAWSUITS
From:     PAUL OLSON

I don't know George.  You haven't seen my original technical
documentation set I received with my 'bow when I ordered it six years
ago! ;-)
.
I know that I was soooooo furious with it that I wrote DEC a letter
describing their documentation as "looking like notes written on the
back of a bar napkin with a swizzle stick dipped in soy sauce by a
soused techweenie".  Of course, I didn't receive a reply.  I didn't
have a good set of tech docs until I joined up with WARUG and obtained
a copy from Caroline.  I was _very_ disappointed with the original
tech docs, especially coming from a VAX background.
.
Just thought I'd give you a laugh. 8-)
As Always,
Paul

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Date:     08-25-90 (08:00)
To:       JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS
Subject:  TRANSLATION
From:     GEORGE THEALL

JD>How do i write a file from the IBM PC to the rainbow??

   There are a variety of approaches you could take. In no particular
order they are:

- -    Assuming you really do have a PC (and not an AT or better) as
well as a double density disk, you might be able to use a single-sided
double density floppy to transfer files. You must format the floppy
(FORMAT A: /1) on the PC and turn MEDIACHK ON on the Rainbow (MEDIACHK
is included as part of the Rainbow's DOS). It works on most, but not
all machines. For files >160K you'll need something like SPLIT to
break files into smaller chunks.

- -    You could connect both machines via some type of network/phone
line/null modem cable and then use a program like Kermit to transfer
the files.

- -    You could purchase a hardware device called an I-Drive. This
would allow you to read from/write to regular PC floppies. A variety
of models exist: 5.25" DD; 5.25" HD, etc... This is by far the
simplest approach, but does entail some cost.

- -    If there's a 1.2MB drive in your IBM (clone) machine, then you
should get a hold of a device driver called RX50. Written by Robert
Morse, it installs in your IBM machine and makes one of your drives
look like an RX50 as well as a regular 1.2MB drive. You refer to the
IBM version as, say, A:, and the RX50 version as, say, D:. This
approach works quite reliably but does require your machine have a
286/386/486 chip.


George
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