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Rainbow EchoMail Digest                         Aug 26, 1990

In this issue:
  RE: HARDDISC
  RE: KILO, MEGA,ETC.
  TRANSLATION
  RAINBO WORKSCLOCK             (2 messages)
  RE: TECO FORRAINBOW?
  RE: CACHEPROGRAM              (2 messages)


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Date:     08-22-90 (18:50)
To:       ALL
Subject:  RE: HARDDISC
From:     FRANK ZSITVAY

In article <450.26D12696.@techbks1.FIDONET.ORG>
David.Hughes@f67.n128.z1.FIDONET.ORG (David Hughes) writes:
>Hi all, I have an ST225.  Tried the RB hard disc utility to low level and
>format the disc, but I kept getting errors about sector 0 bad.
>
>I took it to an IBM machine and promptly low leveled it, fdisk and formatted
>it with a system, and it booted fine.
>
>Could this be a cable or controller problem.  Are there jumper settings or
>seetings I do not know about to have the BR understand I am placing a 20 meg
>on it?  I have a 10 meg on it now, but it errors out after about 2/3rds of the
>hard disk integrity test.
>
>Thoughts?

oh i hope your hard disk controller doesn't have the same problem mine
has.   that's pretty much the same way mine died, except it wouldn't even
work on a 10 meg drive.

i don't know a whole lot about the rainbow hard disk system, but if your
controller is dead, you have my sympathies

possible thought - some ibms use a twist in the cable and have the drive
select on the drives set the same for both drives.  is your drive select
jumper on the drive set to drive 2??  from what i understand,, the jumper
has to be on drive select 1 for the rainbow.  check that, and hope that
that's the only problem.

- --
fzsitvay@techbook.COM - one of these days i'll get it right...

Version 2 of anything is usually the version that works.

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Date:     08-23-90 (23:34)
To:       DAVID MAROUN
Subject:  RE: KILO, MEGA,ETC.
From:     GARY STEBBINS

 > DM: not 1024 * 1024.  You will often see writers take '256 k' as
 > DM: equivalent to '256 thousand' and 'megabyte' as equivalent to
 > DM: '1000 k' ...

 Well, yes and no.  In the engineering world, kilo means 1000 and mega
means 1,000,000.  But the computing world has it's own standards.  I
have seen a "pseudo-standard" documented many years ago - before the
time of mega-bytes - that said "k" meant kilo=1000, and "K" meant
computing-kilo=1024.  In the computing world, I've never seen "mega"
mean anything other than 1024*1024. Since "m" is taken as milli, "M"
must mean either 1,000,000 or 1024*1024 (1,048,576), depending on
context.

- -gary-

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Date:     08-24-90 (21:24)
To:       JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS
Subject:  TRANSLATION
From:     FRANK MALLORY

 JD> of rainbow MS-DOS that i would like to try to set up a BBS in.  I don't
 JD> know the rainbow at all nor do i know what model it is except to say
 JD> that it has an original equipemnt 10 meg (full height) drive made by
 JD> Seagaet (st-412 i think).

You have three basic choices:

1)  If you have Kermit for both, run an RS232 cable from serial port of
the PC  to
COMM port of the Rainbow and transfer them that way.

2)  If your PC has a 1.2MB HD drive, you can get a utility program that
will  let you write to a Rainbow-format diskette.

3)  You can format diskettes single-sided on the PC and use BACKUP to
copy  from the PC; then set MEDIACHK ON on the Rainbow and RESTORE from
those  diskettes.


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Date:     08-25-90 (08:10)
To:       GEORGE THEALL
Subject:  RAINBO WORKSCLOCK
From:     FRANK MALLORY

 GT> forget his last name offhand) died several years ago;  it was never a
 GT> big business (only a couple of employees), and the business died with
 GT> him.
 GT>
 GT> The clock card they sold was OK, but the ClikClok that Suitable
 GT> Solutions sold was better - takes less space in the machine and
 GT> generally seems to have fewer problems.

The RBW clock was the first to be sold for the Rainbow.  It was pretty
much  superceded by the ClikClok, but I think it does have a few
capabilities not  included in the latter.

I got a RBW clock soon after they came out, and it has been working
flawlessly  ever since.


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Date:     08-25-90 (10:46)
To:       BRIAN TREADWAY
Subject:  RE: TECO FORRAINBOW?
From:     PAUL ROBINSON

for UNIX on a PDP-11.

 The one you may be interested in is a version of TECO written in "C"
for MS/DOS.  If you have or can get access to a C compiler, you can use
it.


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Date:     08-25-90 (11:38)
To:       CARL HOUSEMAN
Subject:  RE: CACHEPROGRAM
From:     PAUL ROBINSON

supplies or supports your program.  On the other hand, a company that
goes out of business without a successor or assignee, is 'dead' and thus
any contract with it dies.

 If you have a contract with someone to paint your house, and he stops
doing painting because of a back injury, he is still there, but can't
 perform the contract.  If he dies, he's dead.  That's the difference.
 Or he decides to sell his painting equipment and retire.  He's still
 there even though he can't solve your problem of an umpainted house.


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Date:     08-25-90 (15:36)
To:       PAUL ROBINSON
Subject:  RE: CACHEPROGRAM
From:     FRANK MALLORY

 PR> supplies or supports your program.  On the other hand, a company that
 PR> goes out of business without a successor or assignee, is 'dead' and
 PR> thus any contract with it dies.

So if the owner of the RainboWorks clock program is dead, and there is
no  successor, there should be no legal problem making it available
here.

But let's consider the hypothetical case in which he ISN'T dead.  The
(shrink-wrap) "contract" is still in force.  This particular software
item  was furnished as an adjunct to a hardware item (viz., clock).
Without the  software, the hardware has no value, and vice versa.

Now it happened that a legal owner conveyed the hardware (plugged into a
Rainbow) but failed to convey the software, through oversight or
whatever.   Question: wouldn't it be reasonable to assume that the party
to whom the  hardware was conveyed has the right to avail himself of a
copy of the  software offered by another party?



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Date:     08-25-90 (22:44)
To:       GEORGE THEALL
Subject:  RAINBO WORKSCLOCK
From:     DON MARQUART

 > From: rti!bcw@mcnc.org  (Bruce Wright) Organization: Research Triangle
 > Institute, RTP, NC

 > Rainbo Works is definitely out of business.  The owner (Don ??? - I forget
 > his last name offhand) died several years ago;  it was never a big business
 > (only a couple of employees), and the business died with him.

Wasn't that Don Braun?  Used to run his BBS on a Rainbow with a Corvus
"Data Safe" (120 meg tape drive) and hard disk.  Haven't talked to him
since going to California about distributing the RB Link (big mistake).
And yes, you are correct in that he did pass away some time ago.

Later...

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