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Rainbow EchoMail Digest                         Sep  4, 1990

In this issue:
  RE: CACHE PROGRAM              (4 messages)
  RE: WINDOWS 3.0
  RE: KILO, MEGA, ETC.
  RE: HARD DISC
  RE: COLORS ON RAINBOW
  RE: TECO FOR RAINBOW?


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Date:     09-02-90 (16:23)
To:       CARL HOUSEMAN
Subject:  RE: CACHE PROGRAM
From:     JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS

 >re: Under federal law, sale of a program gives the owner of that copy
 >    the right to transfer that copy to anyone he wants to ...

Yea, when was the last time you bought software??  Most of the software
that i have seen, you buy a license to use it, not the software it self.


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Date:     09-03-90 (14:09)
To:       FRANK MALLORY
Subject:  RE: WINDOWS 3.0
From:     BILL MAYHEW

I don't think you'd find Pagemaker or Ventura useable on a non-Turbowed
Rainbow.  Both programs are quite CPU-intensive.


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Date:     09-03-90 (14:13)
To:       GARY STEBBINS
Subject:  RE: KILO, MEGA, ETC.
From:     BILL MAYHEW

Your definitions of "k", "K", "m" and "M" are fine and dandy, until you
 consider that in other industries, "M" means "thousand", not million.
I was slightly freaked out the first time I ordered 5,000 custom
computer forms and the order paperwork came through saying "5M".
   I think the bottom line to this discussion is that the use of this
terminology is about as "standard" as is, oh, UNIX. ;-)
   -Bill


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Date:     09-03-90 (14:19)
To:       DAVID MAROUN
Subject:  RE: HARD DISC
From:     BILL MAYHEW

Bingo!  The original DEC-supplied hard disk utility was indeed not
intended to support disks bigger than 10Mb.  When DEC introduced the
RD31 20Mb disk for the Rainbow, it came with a revised hard disk utility
to support it.


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Date:     09-03-90 (14:23)
To:       FRANK MALLORY
Subject:  RE: COLORS ON RAINBOW
From:     BILL MAYHEW

Frank,
   There *is* no VT241 programmer's manual.  The VT240 programmer's
manual (actually, "VT240 Series Programmer's Reference Manual",
EK-VT240-RM) covers both. But as noted elsewhere, its contents are of
no use to the Rainbow user unless he/she is running Rainbow ReGIS.

   -Bill


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Date:     09-03-90 (14:33)
To:       CARL HOUSEMAN
Subject:  RE: CACHE PROGRAM
From:     BILL MAYHEW

Carl,
   Digital's license transfer rules are covered by contract law.  Paul's
statement, about federal law which states that purchased/licensed
software can be transferred by transferring the original media, doesn't
apply when it is superseded by a contract between buyer and seller, as
in Digital's case.
   -Bill


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Date:     09-03-90 (14:36)
To:       JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS
Subject:  RE: CACHE PROGRAM
From:     BILL MAYHEW

Jean-Claude,
   NO NO NO.
   Most (if not all) software licenses contain a clause which states
that you (the licensee) may not make copies of the software for anyone
else. Period, the end.
   -Bill


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Date:     09-03-90 (03:00)
To:       JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS
Subject:  RE: TECO FOR RAINBOW?
From:     PAUL ROBINSON

'TECO' is an acronym for 'Text Editor and COrrector,' THE editor for
DIGITAL computers (the serious ones, anyway).  TECO, in various forms,
ran on RT11, RSX, RSTS/E, DEC-10, DEC-20.  It is probably the most
powerful line oriented editor ever created.  It supports virtually all
of the features now available in powerful editors:  conditional editing,
looping, testing for conditions, displaying messages, etc.  In short,
macros for TECO take on the quality of small programs because of the
power and flexibility of TECO.  It was, however, hard to learn to use
the editor efficiently because it did so many things.  But you could
learn it enough to use it for editing in about 20 minutes.  More
powerful capabilities could be learned over weeks.

 The only thing teco lacked - because there was no standard defining it
- - was full screen editing capability.  But you could write a macro to do
that!


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Date:     09-03-90 (11:25)
To:       PAUL ROBINSON
Subject:  RE: CACHE PROGRAM
From:     CARL HOUSEMAN

re: Whether Digital can claim that the product is licensed, i.e. leased
     or rented, rather than sold, is a semantic question.

 I don't take "licensed" to mean leased or rented.  IANAL, but I've
understood for years (or so I thought) that there were perpetual
licenses and renewable licenses.  The renewable type would seem to imply
a lease.  But a pertetual license entitles the holder to use the product
forever, unless the license is canceled or terminated as provided for in
the license agreement itself.

 Getting back to the original problem, "Is the software sold?", I've not
met a license agreement yet that doesn't say something like "Title or
ownership of the software is not conveyed to the licensor".  So, it's
not the software that's being sold, just the right to use it.  And it is
this right-to-use that Digital restricts its customers from re-selling.


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