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Rainbow EchoMail Digest                         Sep  3, 1990

In this issue:
  RE: CACHE PROGRAM              (4 messages)
  RE: TECO FOR RAINBOW?
  RE: BBS RUNNING ON A RAIN


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Date:     08-30-90 (23:21)
To:       PAUL ROBINSON
Subject:  RE: CACHE PROGRAM
From:     CARL HOUSEMAN

re: Under federal law, sale of a program gives the owner of that copy
     the right to transfer that copy to anyone he wants to ...

 Uhhh, you wanta tell that to Digital?  They won't bless a transfer of a
VAX layered product out of the bounds of the original purchasing
company.  Course, you said "sale of a 'program'", when what is really
being sold is a license.  Was that a slip of the finger, or did you
really mean sale of the software itself?


- --- Opus-CBCS 1.12
 * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md - 301-622-2247
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Date:     08-31-90 (02:29)
To:       PAUL ROBINSON
Subject:  RE: TECO FOR RAINBOW?
From:     JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS

 >I have a couple of TECOs available.  One is the assembly sources
 >to one for UNIX on a PDP-11.

What is TECO??


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 * Origin: The Moose's Den2 (HST/V.32)  (1:130/35)
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Date:     08-31-90 (02:33)
To:       FRANK MALLORY
Subject:  RE: CACHE PROGRAM
From:     JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS

 >Now it happened that a legal owner conveyed the hardware (plugged
 >into a  Rainbow) but failed to convey the software, through
 >oversight or whatever.   Question: wouldn't it be reasonable
 >to assume that the party to whom the  hardware was conveyed
 >has the right to avail himself of a copy of the  software offered
 >by another party?

Well, if you look at it this way...  When you got the hardware, you also
got a license to the software, and thus, if you need another copy of the
same software, it would still be covered by the original lease.
Therefore, it would not be illegal for you to make copies of the
software availble to someone who also already had the license (even
though they did not have the physical software).  I sell computers
formatted with MS-DOS when a customer buys a copy of MS-DOS from me, but
i do not necessarly use the customers diskettes.  Is that illegal??
Same basic premis right??


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 * Origin: The Moose's Den2 (HST/V.32)  (1:130/35)
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Date:     08-31-90 (02:35)
To:       DON MARQUART
Subject:  RE: CACHE PROGRAM
From:     JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS

 >Technically, the true ownership of the software is determined by
 >posession of the "original" distribution disk and license.  Legally
 >you should get by with just the original disk to prove ownership.

Don't confuse software ownership with ownership of a software license.

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Date:     09-01-90 (01:55)
To:       CARL HOUSEMAN
Subject:  RE: CACHE PROGRAM
From:     PAUL ROBINSON

I meant what I said.  Whether Digital can claim that the product is
licensed, i.e. leased or rented, rather than sold, is a semantic
question.  There were some points in law that implied that most of the
so-called 'licenses' which are - to a degree - feeble attempts to claim
they are not selling you the program but only licensing it to you, are
not valid.

 If the owner of the package in effect transfers the program to the
'purchaser' and does nothing else, the claim that it is leased might not
hold up.


- --- Opus-CBCS 1.12
 * Origin: Silver Bullet - Silver Spring, Md - 301-622-2247
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Date:     09-01-90 (07:51)
To:       JEAN-CLAUDE DEMARS
Subject:  RE: BBS RUNNING ON A RAIN
From:     MARK FISCHER

Well I do not know about OPUS's Memory requirements but Opus is quite
the DISK PIG when fully installed. SYSOP of GLACIER PEAK had told me
when I asked about disk space requirements that his setup took
abot 5mb of space. Two sugggestions - 1. get a ST251 42mb SEAGATE disk
(40ms one should be fine) & wutil32 to Format and partion the drive. 2.
If the memory board has empty chip sockets populate with 41256-15 256kb
chips (this may require you to pull the old 64kb chips out). Remember
step two only applies if the memory board is socketed otherwise you may
want hunt down the socketed memory board.

- --- Opus-CBCS 1.12
 * Origin: Glacier Peak Rainbow, Bellevue, WA - 206/644-8431 (1:343/3.0)
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