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Started by alan i. vymetalik
Thu, 22 Oct 1987 04:14
The DEC Rainbow...Alive and Doing Well...Long Message!
Author: alan i. vymetalik
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1987 04:14
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1987 04:14
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... Hello Net-land!
I am simply overwhelmed! Thanks to all the netters who initially
responded. I expect more as the days go by.
Since my last posting I have received over 20 e-mails and seen 7
net messages fly by (some were duplicates of the e-mails) from
people who have Rainbows (one person has control of 450+ Rainbows!),
people with friends who have Rainbows, and simple curiousity
seekers.
There's been enough response that we could form our own newsgroup....
Naw...Let's not push it!
Anyway, I am going to try to respond tomorrow to most of the e-mails
personally. However, let me try to answer some quick questions here
which should be of interest to all.
First of all, who am I to be pounding people? Well, I've been a Rainbow
owner, user, software developer, and DEC PC consultant on and off for
the last 4 years. I've released numerous Shareware Packages for the
Rainbow (such as WDIR, Rainbow ROM routines, GALLERY graphics demo,
and other utilities) and I have several more to be released (a Shareware
spreadsheet/word processor package called Prism, a graphics pin ball
game called Zippy Pin Ball!, an updated version of WDIR renamed Power-
Scan, a Rainbow-specific version of the VMS Moria dungeon game, as
well as other items). When and if I get my hands on Turbo Pascal 4.0,
more things will be planned simply because I love the machine and
it's better than an IBM PC or compatible (except for those new-fangled
'386 machines!...ok, it's not faster than an AT...).
Let's be fair...No PC bashing here... for the moment...
Unfortunately, as many of you know, life and bills often intrude into
one's pleasurable adventures and, thus, I am forced to make a living.
Rainbow software hasn't been profitable for me. So, I currently make my
fortunes working in the Mac and IBM PC world developing software
and documentation for interactive videodisc technology products such
as CBT and CAI packages.
Also, credential-wise, I am past Vice-Chairman and past Acting Chairman of
the Rainbow Special Interest Forum for our local DECUS chapter (GRALUG).
And, I am the new public domain columnist for The DEC MicroLetter as
well as a product reviewer for the newsletter (see issue #4 for a
review on Boston Software Work's redone VenturCom's Venix Version 2.0
for the Rainbow --- that is if life stops pestering me long enough
for me to complete the review!).
So, that's basically me... You can see my interest in wanting to keep
Rainbow owners talking. DEC may have killed the Rainbow line officially
in July of this year, but I plan to give CPR for as long as my pocket
book holds out! It's a damned nice machine. I haven't had one failure
(except a broken hard disk cable) since I got the machine.
OK, some quick answers...
For reviews on over 100 Rainbow Shareware/PD programs, check out
Bruce Jackson's "Rainbow Freeware" ($20 US from New South Moulton Press,
96 Rumsey Roaid, Buffalo, NY, 14209, USA). This soft-back, spiral-bound
book is a treasure trove of reviews of Rainbow software. I have no
financial interest in this book.
Contact Carolyn Mack at (618)-632-1146 (BBS #) or write to "Rainbow News"
IRUG (International Rainbow Users Group), P.O. Box 567, O'Fallen, IL,
62269, USA, to subscribe to the "Rainbow News" newsletter. Rates are
(I believe) $30 U.S./year to US addresses and $50 U.S./year to international
addresses. (10-11 issues/year).
Contact Ted Needleman at (914)-425-0100 or write to "The DEC MicroLetter"
Microtechnology Associates, Inc., P.O. Box J, New City, NY, 10956, USA.
Subscriptions are $36/year for US, $40/year for Canada, and $60/year for
international. (6 issues a year).
Both are excellent sources of Rainbow information. I have subscriptions
to both (but both are regrouping so latest issues are behind..both are
now being produced nearly single-handedly by the two people mentioned...
they can use the help, I think!). BTW, yes, I have a SMALL financial
stake in The DEC MicroLetter.
Checkout any PC trade magazine for computer parts and IC companies.
You can purchase an NEC V20 (5mhz version) for about $8.50 US to $12.50
US for the Rainbow. Contact Advanced Computer Products for the NEC V20
and Microprocessors Unlimited for memory chip purchases. Sorry, no
addresses or phone #'s. No financial interest either (except that I
gave them money for things.)
The NEC V20 chip plugs right into the 8088 socket. That's it! No
jumpers; no mess. One bug, though, the timing will be off for the
diagnostic ROM check upon power-up. Simply SET-UP, CONTROL-SET-UP
the Rainbow and it'll finish the boot. Norton SYSI reports a
1.8 relative performance index compared to an XT (1.00 index). Not
bad. I've seen a little faster displays and calculations are a little
faster. There are a few people who make E-PROM changes to the Rainbow's
E-PROMS so the boot process works properly.
Interesting new software available:
MS-DOS V3.10.016 DOES exist. I've heard of it's existence somewhere
in the US. It's floating free of its prison cell at DEC. Someone let
it out (DEC DIDN'T like that one bit!) and it is thus looking for a few
good Rainbows. I've heard about it but then again...
"Micro Display Manager" from JPL Labs - digitized pictures (in COLOR)
of Saturn's rings, the moons of Jupiter, Mars' surface.
"Rainbow Graphics Library" source routines in CI-C86 and MASM (from
DEC)... what DEC used to produce the DESK, CMAP (color map), Windows-like
Dialer, and Xpress (graphics editor) programs.
"TurboComm II version 3.1" - VT102/125/241 emulator and communications
program. (works with Poly-ReGIS).
History V3.6, Print Screen v4.0, RB-Buffer V2.0 (VMS-like history,
print screen key support, 128-character buffer Mem Res utilities) as
well as SmartKey V5.0.
Not necessarily new: GW-Basic compiler (pd version!), GSX for MS-DOS,
MACPIX (Mac pictures for the Rainbow), TODO V2.7 (time management),
SEDT V3.1(126) multi-buffer editor (like EDT), all the programs from
CICA, Inc. (Chess-Ingenuity, Menu-Ingenuity, enhanced Patch program),
the PD PATCH program, a whole couple of Megs worth of Unix-like utilities
(everything from Touch to YACC to shell programs).
JOBSDUMP V4.0 (GW-Basic graphics screen to printer dump program) has been
announced...
Games such as Hack, Moria, Larn, and graphics Othello, as well as
others.
Oh, I could go on and on! Items of request by a couple of people
may find their way to being posted here...
Many of these files can be grabbed off of the HitchHiker's FIDO BBS
at 1-315-589-7361. Tell the Sysop, Fritz Howard, I sent you. In fact,
tell Ted Needleman and Carolyn Mack I sent you, also. I don't get any-
thing for it but I would like to hear about people calling them!
(BTW, The HitchHiker's Guide is now one of the largest Rainbow FIDO
boards in the WORLD! Some 1300 files on a Rainbow 100+ with a VERY
large disk drive! I get most of my stuff from there).
Enough for now. I'll wait to see what responses I get before I carry
this any further.
Thanks, again, to everyone who sent me an e-mail.
Thanks, especially, for reading through this posting!
Enjoy!
Alan
Alan I. Vymetalik @ {allegra,seismo}!rochester!ritcv!iav1917
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DISCLAIMER: The above statements and opinions belong to the author.
Any resemblence to statements found in actual reality is purely coin-
cidental. And, as always, the above opinions have absolutely nothing
to do with the little, fat man putting $100 bills in my pocket.
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The DEC Rainbow
Author: John Proctor
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1987 15:22
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1987 15:22
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I now know what an EDSEL owner felt like! However, unlike the EDSEL I doubt
that the blessed thing will appreciate in value as a collector's item!
I have a Rainbow 100B with full memory, dual floppy drives, and b/w monitor.
It is my own machine and therefore cannot have large amounts of money spent
on it! I have several questions for the group thus this posting.
(a) How does one upgrade to MS-DOS V3.xx if no one is selling
and supporting the product? This is not a naive question
as it will have longer term impact for applications support.
(b) I have a 30 MB hard disk (ST506 I/F). I have yet to find a
reasonably priced controller. Remember comment above. There
are many for the IBM PC at less than $150. DEC's price is
an insult to any person or corporation! In fact, DEC's whole
attitude to the Rainbow is an insult (I used to work for DEC)!
But I digress, I would like to find a hard disk controller
for the Rainbow which is priced < $250 and is reliable. Any
suggestions?
Don't get me wrong, I like the concept of the rainbow but the problem of
over-inflated pricing of peripheral options and the lack of support make it
a DODO. If I can't get a reasonably priced controller then I will offer this
unit for sale.
When you can get a 10MHz. AT with 512K memory, SCSI disk interface on a single
AT form factor board for use in a passive backplane configuration for
approximately $800 why fight it!
John D. Proctor | Usenet: {inhp4,uunet}!ingr!jdp!proctor
Intergraph Corp. | ARPAnet: uu.net.uunet@ingr!jdp!proctor
| US Post: 1 Madison Industrial Park
Usual Disclaimers Apply | Huntsville, AL 35807-4201
A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little
statesmen and philosophers and divines.
"Self Reliance" by Ralph Waldo Emerson
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John D. Proctor | Usenet: {inhp4,uunet}!ingr!jdp!proctor
Intergraph Corp. | ARPAnet: uu.net.uunet@ingr!jdp!proctor
| US Post: 1 Madison Industrial Park
Usual Disclaimers Apply | Huntsville, AL 35807-4201
A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little
statesmen and philosophers and divines.
"Self Reliance" by Ralph Waldo Emerson
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