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Article #1507Re: Digital News and Review's irresponsible attitude
From: Richard Head
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:07
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:07
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mdchaney@fractal.ucs.indiana.edu (M Darrin Chaney) writes: >Anyway, the VUP is a unit of power. Let's not confuse the issue with unnecessary detail. >It's nice to have the unit of power in a unit that you are familiar with. >However, if you are comparing a group of computers (or cars), the units >are irrelevant. Perhaps they are irrelevant to you. Believe it or not, some people (obviously not quite the established Computer Scientist you are) like to make comparison to a REFERENCE STANDARD (SPECmarks), so they can compare machines, regardless of vendor. How can they do this with MicroVUPs? (That's right, Einstein, tell me how many MicroVUPs an IBM RS6000 has! That's exactly the information I'm looking for!) >You can tell by looking at the numbers that computer X >is 5 times as "fast" as computer Y. You're just using those complex formulas because you know I left my Star Trek decoder ring at home. >All of DR's reviews are based on relative stats. The machines capable of X >are always shown with stats relative to a DS3000. DR's "reviews" (and I use the word loosely), are essentially an advertisement. I'm sure performance relative to a DS3000 is valuable to you, but most people who a) use VMS which b) only runs on VAXes and Alpha, would probably be more interested in how many SPECmarks a DS3000 has, not MicroVUPs. >>#> For a long time, the uVAX II had the largest installed base of any VAX >>Really? Care to quantify what you mean by a "long time"? Last time I >>checked, the MVII sold well from 87-89, but since then, I'm sure it has >>been overtaken by MV3100, VAXstation 3100, etc. >So? Is it any worse a comparison point than the VAX-11/780? "Worse"? The point is, you academic flunky, that MicroVUPs are MACHINE SPECIFIC. SPECmarks are machine and platform independent. If you think MicroVUPs are so great, why not have MicroVAX3100VUPS? How about VAXstationVUPs? >You might notice that Digital doesn't use MVUPs. No shit. And the reasons they don't are exactly the reasons I have made quite clear. -- richard@npri6.npri.com <Richard Head>
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!psinntp!psinntp!npri6!richard From: richard@npri6.npri.com (Richard Head) Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.os.vms,comp.unix.ultrix Subject: Re: Digital News and Review's irresponsible attitude Message-ID: <6156@npri6.npri.com> Date: 10 Sep 92 23:07:16 GMT References: <6094@npri6.npri.com> <1309@niktow.canisius.edu> <6136@npri6.npri.com> <Bu9x7w.MpJ@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Distribution: world,local Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA Lines: 53