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Article #2880Re: alpha memory requirements (vs vax) ?
From: Bob Supnik
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:47
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:47
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In article <1992Nov5.113540.1@uwovax.uwo.ca>, brent@uwovax.uwo.ca (Brent Sterner) writes... > > Just curious about memory demands for alpha. I'm running a VAX 4500 >with 128 MB memory. Of that, SHO MEM tells me "38393 pages are permanently >allocated to VMS". How big is VMS on an alpha system? > [text deleted] In general, code expansion from VAX to Alpha is typical for RISC processors: perhaps 1.8 to 1: but there is wide variation. As mentioned in a previous note, compiler techniques such as inlining, loop unrolling, etc all increase the size of the program text to improve performance. Data expansion from VAX to Alpha should be negligible, unless the program contains a lot of packed and unaligned data which gets properly aligned during recompilation. Note that the decision to align data or leave it unaligned is controllable at compile time, but aligned data produces much better performance. As for VMS itself, several factors are at work. Some of VMS requirements are not in bytes but in pages. For example, the minimum process needs a certain number of pages for stack, stack guard, etc; these were 512 bytes on a VAX but are 8192 bytes on an Alpha. In addition, to improve performance, VMS on Alpha allows (under user control) the entire operating system to be loaded resident, without paging. Consequently, the minimum memory requirement for Alpha VMS systems is currently 32MB, and that much or more is included in the minimum configuration for all announced systems. Bob Supnik >Supnik@human.enet.dec.com >All opinions expressed are those of a hardline microcoder >and do not reflect those of Digital Equipment Corporation
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!know!hri.com!noc.near.net!nic.umass.edu!caen!sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!ames!haven.umd.edu!decuac!pa.dec.com!sousa.tay.dec.com!human.enet.dec.com!supnik From: supnik@human.enet.dec.com (Bob Supnik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.os.vms Subject: Re: alpha memory requirements (vs vax) ? Message-ID: <2213@sousa.tay.dec.com> Date: 12 Nov 92 21:47:12 GMT References: <1992Nov5.113540.1@uwovax.uwo.ca> Sender: newsa@sousa.tay.dec.com Followup-To: comp.sys.dec Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 31